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    If I bought 30ml of flavorless 36mg 80pg/20vg and 30ml flavorless 0 nic 80pg/20vg can i just remove 15ml of the 36mg add 15ml of the 0 nic and then pour a little into a 5ml bottle and add a flavor maybe some alcohol to help throat hit? would this work? I don't want to mess around buying a whole bunch of crap if I don't have to. If I have to I will but this seems like this may work.

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    Yes, this will work. I'll end up being a little less than 18mg strength once you add the flavoring and alcohol. For throat hit I add about 10-12 drops of Vodka to a 10 ml bottle so 5 or 6 drops will be a good place to start for a 5 ml bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonflame View Post
    Yes, this will work. I'll end up being a little less than 18mg strength once you add the flavoring and alcohol. For throat hit I add about 10-12 drops of Vodka to a 10 ml bottle so 5 or 6 drops will be a good place to start for a 5 ml bottle.
    Actually if he removes 50% of the total amount and then adds back in a combination of PG/VG, alcohol, and flavoring to = the 50% he removed (15ml) then he will end up with 18mg, not less than 18mg. And yes that will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubabatdan View Post
    Actually if he removes 50% of the total amount and then adds back in a combination of PG/VG, alcohol, and flavoring to = the 50% he removed (15ml) then he will end up with 18mg, not less than 18mg. And yes that will work.
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    Please correct me if I am wrong Dan but, if he was just using 50% of both then yes the % would equal to 18mg. But, if he starts cutting that base with alcohol or flavouring, wouldn't that reduce the % to slightly below 18mg.

    I ask this as this is how I create all my juices. I create the base at "X"mg, then flavour. To me the flavour is more important that loosing let's say 0.5mg of nicotine. Not saying this is what is happening here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switched View Post
    Please correct me if I am wrong Dan but, if he was just using 50% of both then yes the % would equal to 18mg. But, if he starts cutting that base with alcohol or flavouring, wouldn't that reduce the % to slightly below 18mg.

    I ask this as this is how I create all my juices. I create the base at "X"mg, then flavour. To me the flavour is more important that loosing let's say 0.5mg of nicotine. Not saying this is what is happening here...
    That's how I do it too. My mix isn't actually at 24mg; it's probably more like 20-22mg.

    But I think what he was saying is if the OP removed 50% of the unflavored niquid, then only added back a quantity equal to 15mL (including the ETOH and flavor) it would be 18mg.

    For me, that's too much work. If I was vaping 36 or 48, I'd want to be more precise. In the mid- to low- 20s, that potential to be off by 2-4mg/mL doesn't concern me too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiousJan View Post
    That's how I do it too. My mix isn't actually at 24mg; it's probably more like 20-22mg.

    But I think what he was saying is if the OP removed 50% of the unflavored niquid, then only added back a quantity equal to 15mL (including the ETOH and flavor) it would be 18mg.

    For me, that's too much work. If I was vaping 36 or 48, I'd want to be more precise. In the mid- to low- 20s, that potential to be off by 2-4mg/mL doesn't concern me too much.

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    ... you are correct! I had to read it twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switched View Post
    ... you are correct! I had to read it twice
    Yep that is what I ment LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switched View Post
    Please correct me if I am wrong Dan but, if he was just using 50% of both then yes the % would equal to 18mg. But, if he starts cutting that base with alcohol or flavouring, wouldn't that reduce the % to slightly below 18mg.

    I ask this as this is how I create all my juices. I create the base at "X"mg, then flavour. To me the flavour is more important that loosing let's say 0.5mg of nicotine. Not saying this is what is happening here...

    Yes you are correct, if he used 15ml of 30 mg and 0mg then it would be 18mg, if he added flavoring to that then it would be below 18mg.
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    wow lots of help. Basically i came up with this way because its simple to me. I can even do this mix in smaller bottles till i get the flavors right. I wont be adding 15ml of the 0nic it will be a little less so I have room for flavor and possibly water or alcohol. The final mix will be half 36mg niquid and half 0mg liquid, flavor, and alcohol or water. This way I will never be stuck with an expensive bottle of liquid i don't like and i don't have to mix all the other stuff just add flavor, alcohol etc done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysox10 View Post
    wow lots of help. Basically i came up with this way because its simple to me. I can even do this mix in smaller bottles till i get the flavors right. I wont be adding 15ml of the 0nic it will be a little less so I have room for flavor and possibly water or alcohol. The final mix will be half 36mg niquid and half 0mg liquid, flavor, and alcohol or water. This way I will never be stuck with an expensive bottle of liquid i don't like and i don't have to mix all the other stuff just add flavor, alcohol etc done.
    OK, I think we know where you are going and I believe that we (curiousjan and I) are on the same page but you do say it in a confusing matter.

    We start from a base liquid, something you have yet to create but intend to. The delta to mine anyways, is that the only addition that will be done is flavouring. Here is my base (alcohol only included for demo PG would be 30% or 9mls):

    15mls @ 50mg nic juice (PG Based) 50%
    7.5mls PG 25%
    6mls VG 20%
    1.5mls alcohol 5% (this I would almost prefer to add it later, as needed).

    Result 30mls@25mg base of 75/20/5 (I like an 80/20% VG)

    From there I use this in 3ml bottles and add flavouring. If I screw up, I'm out three mls but I still have the base.

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