Liqueur Flavoring Essences

**jbbishop** · 03-09-2009, 08:03 PM

Kate brought this up on another thread. Theoretically, any of these essences should be both concentrated enough and free of undesirable additives to be useful.

Check with your local home brewing shops. While you're there you can pick up any glycerine you need in 4 and 8 ounce bottles.

Here's some online retailers:

Prestige Essence (Swedish Connections)

Brewing Made Easy At Bin Inn

Making liqueurs and cordials with essences and extracts

Liqueur Essences by BREW USA

Liqueur Essences - Smiley's Home Distilling

Brewhaus (America) Inc.- Liqueur Essences

About essences: use only essences made from natural or nature identical aromas. If it is not clearly stated of the ingredients that it is made from natural or nature identical ingredients, do not use them. If the ingredients are declared as aromas or food aromas or similar, they are probably cheap, synthetic aromas, and you do not want to know what the are made from. A manufacturer always reveals natural and nature-identical ingredients, as this is proof of quality and proof that there are no synthetic aromas used.

I'm sure this has also been discussed on here somewhere but I can't find it at the moment:

TASTY PUFF TOBACCO FLAVORING

Whatever the formulation, these at least have been pre-selected for compatibility with the flavor experience of smoking tobacco.

I remember years ago when I sprayed LorAnn Cherry flavor on my tobacco. It was so oily I had to let it dry out for days before I could smoke it because of the oily staining film it would leave on the papers. On the other hand, ordinary pure vanilla extract seemed to work modestly well. In the end, even at a very high concentration, the cherry wasn't very good (probably because it wasn't sweet) and didn't taste natural. I was similarly disappointed with a pina colada flavor. I would guess that with glycerine being slightly sweet many of the candy flavorings would have a substantially better outcome for everyone than what I had in trying to spray LorAnn flavors on loose tobacco.

In a different category, the menthol crystals really would be the only way to go. They even sell filters with the crystals embedded in them. Menthol crystals is the real deal. I've suggested for vanilla going with vanilla absolute although others seem to be satisfied with straight pure extract. I would guess a 2x or 4x extract would be better though if not using vanilla absolute. I see that LorAnn clove is a preferred choice (a mix of 1 drop per 10ml of base) so there is a good solution here too.

There's another thread dealing with the Top Note flavors for tobacco growers. I never tried those though I was aware of them at the time. The flavor selection is obviously very limited. But if they are offering cherry then I imagine (whatever the formulation is) that somehow the ones they do offer must work well for tobacco flavoring, unlike my own experiment. I concluded at the time that it wasn't clear to me what method commercial tobacco manufacturers were using to flavor their tobacco products (TOP has since introduced quite a variety), but for that purpose, LorAnn didn't work. It's possible that water soluble flavorings work better than others.

I don't think there should be any problem with the Top Note flavors. I believe that there have been concerns raised about the tobacco flavor enhancers, however.

FreshestSeeds.com Tobacco Flavoring

Tobacco Flavorings for Home Grown Tobacco

Tobacco Finishing Products for Cigarettes, Pipe, and Cigars

**Kate** · 03-09-2009, 11:28 PM

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-recepies.html

Menthol crystals

Watch out for colourings, oils and sugars, we don't know how they physically effect us or if they kill atomisers.

Do not inhale diacetyl - that's a butter flavouring that causes lung disease. Inhaling Flavouring Chemicals

Tasty Puff tobacco flavours do not taste good apparently and might contain undesirable ingredients.

**jbbishop** · 03-10-2009, 03:41 AM

WOW, here's where all the REAL tobacco flavorings come from.

Tobacco Technology Incorporated TTI

Welcome to Tobacco Technology, Inc.

I would strongly doubt that it's worth inquiring as it seems unlikely they would sell in quantities useful to us as individuals.

**rsngfrce** · 03-22-2009, 01:42 AM

I find these liqueur flavors very intriguing.

Brewhaus (America) Inc.- Liqueur Essences

but I don't find anything about the ingredients... anybody have any idea?

Searched around about prestige essences but can't find any ingredients...

**Idahojo** · 03-22-2009, 02:11 AM

I would personally like to thank Kate. Every time there is a thread about ingredients for eliquids she is ALWAYS on top of it warning us about what's good and totally bad. You are a smoking saint Kate! And we appreciate you!

**Kate** · 03-22-2009, 02:16 AM

**rsngfrce** · 03-22-2009, 02:19 AM

Yeah, but this liqueur flavor thread got hijacked by the tobacco flavoring...

**jbbishop** · 03-22-2009, 04:24 PM

I know for sure that there is no sugar.

The sizes I've seen are about .65 oz. and 20 ml. and will flavour up to 1 litre.

Here's a better link that shows the entire selection of Prestige brand essences offered on the site mentioned:

Brewhaus (America) Inc.- Prestige Essences

Prestige Essences - Manufacturer Description

We supply essence for everything from liquors like gin, rum, aquavit and whiskey, to fine liqueurs, bitters, semi bitters, fruit vodkas and candy shots. We produce over 200 different essences from stock.

An essence is not a flavor! A flavor is a simple and crude product compared to an essence. Prestige™ essences contain different natural (sometimes nature-identical) flavors but, in addition, have extracts of natural oils, herbs, oak, etc.

A flavor is simply a flavor, an ingredient. Flavors are often synthetic - we use no synthetic flavor at all in our products - and never will. Essences cost more than flavors - but you get a product that often is 20 times better.

**jbbishop** · 04-11-2009, 10:08 AM

Hasn't ANYONE tried the liqueur flavoring essences yet?

I am guessing they are so much better tasting and of better quality than the candy flavors. You don't need to wait and can pick up samples to try at your local brew shop. I'll bet they taste just like the real thing and should be compared to this other line of Natures Flavors.

Liquid for DIYers

I for one would certainly look forward to any reports and comparisons.