If you are going to DIY why would you order anything less than 100mg/ml?
Because 100mg/ml isn't the safest thing to play around with. A half mL can kill you.
I don't fool around with anything over 50mg because it scares me. I'm a klutz and I have pets and to me it's not worth the risk to save a few cents.
When I first started DIY I started with 36mg until I felt comfortable.
Not really an option for DIY to order anything stronger. I think.
Consider however that 100mg/ml is 12% pure nicotine. eliquid manufacturers use 99% pure stuff, now that would give me the hebejeebes.
If I got some 100mg stuff spilled on my hands I would just wash it off and would probably not need medical attention. I don't mix liquid too far from a sink.
The only reason you would want a more pure nicotine base would be if you were mixing VG juice.
Last edited by skeetr; 04-24-2010 at 08:32 AM.
Nicotine in pure form should NOT be handled by anyone without a laboratory.
Originally Posted by mauisun
Pure nicotine is around 1000mg/ml. A single DROP can kill you of that.
I cannot stress enough -- DO NOT EVER BUY PURE NICOTINE.
100mg/mL is dangerous, but it's nowhere near as dangerous as pure nicotine.
that is a no doubt. and very few people are even allowed to buy at that strength. lab to lab maybe, but even my own setup will not go that strength. might as well wear a moon suit with a negative pressure bio room if you get that deep in it. we don't go that far. 100mg/ml is the way to go. 150mg/ml if you want to ge that deep in it. don't go any farther. Even our manufacturer does the breakdown for us instead of getting the straight stuff from them. too unsafe. even the 100mg/ml needs to be handled with extreme caution
Originally Posted by keveck
I consider myself a careful person and NO WAY would I EVER buy pure nic for DIY purposes.
I spilled one drop of 100 on my skin a couple of weeks ago and run to the sink to run cold water on it to rinse it off. One drop of 100 is like 5mg. No biggie. One drop of pure nic is 50mg, and I may not have been here to type this message now had it been pure nic I were using. Just one single drop would do the job.
Never DIY with pure nic, ever. It isn't worth it.
Because there is absolutely no reason to do so. There is no cost savings buying 100mg over 50mg. Furthermore, the 100mg will cost you more to cut in the long run. So your argument for 100mg would be?
Originally Posted by smokin n jokin
The USP Propylene Glycol and Glycerine I buy are a small part of my mixing cost, amounting to about 5% of my total cost. When I buy nicotine liquid, I do a cost per milligram of nicotine analysis, consider the source and their reputation for purity, and buy the least expensive nicotine from one of those sources.
Supertrke's 100 mg is often the lowest cost/mg liquid, so he then would get my order. MFS recently had a sale, and their 60 mg/ml liquid was the price-beater. Both 100 mg/ml and 60 mg/ml fit my mixing needs nicely, we typically use a 20 mg/ml final product.
My recommendation? All else equal, buy the best cost/mg liquid, let competition drive the market.
I only use 100mg to top off flavours that ain't quite strong enough, so as not to lose the flavour of the original liquid. At 5mg per drop, it doesn't take a lot to boost an 18mg liquid up to 22mg.
I use 52mg as a base for mixing to a 36mg, or less, final mix.