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cmdrmaxwell · 08-06-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FRESH

I will get jusice in my mouth once in a while, and I agree that is likely from over filling. But I constantly, when I pop off my cart to top it off, have juice that runs down the outside of the white part of the cart and it runs down on the black mouthpiece where I ALWAYS have to wipe my mouthpiece off before using it again. Just frustrating, but perhaps if my filler was holding the juice better this wouldn't happen.

i am getting that leakage with 901 carts on my 510. i just want to know if its harmful to get a mouthful of juice even though i know i am inhaling the stuff! anybody?

fellcolor · 08-13-2009, 04:48 AM

I'm having the same problem with my brand new 801 manual. I'm going to try restuffing a cart in the morning - because I do kinda like the vape, but I'm CONTINUOUSLY getting gobs of fluid in my mouth.

jboze · 08-13-2009, 07:06 AM

Not getting any fluid in my mouth but I'm getting leaks from between the atomiser and battery on my manuals. I pull the cart cap off and it looks dry on the top so I doubt it's overfilled. Maybe the cart stuffing is just ****e?

SheerLuckHolmes · 08-13-2009, 04:31 PM

It is a matter of experiementation. The only times I get fluid in my mouth is when I overfill the cart. That is influenced by how I change the filler material when I change it. The tighter I pack the cart with filler the less I have to pay attention to how much juice I put in. The looser I pack the cart the more careful I have to be with how much juice to use each time to avoid juice-mouth. However, the looser the filler the easier the draw, the tighter the filler the harder the draw.

Remember we are in the days of the model T, with respect to the car industry. The infancy of our new e-cigarette industry calls for a lot of consumer participation and consumer self education and expertise. As our industry grows into adolecence I see fiber filler carts becoming obsolete. There will be small gell capsules of juice from which the e-cig device will automatically inject the right amount of juice to the atty. But these expected days of a Mercedes e-cig are aways down the road.

Closet Toker · 09-05-2009, 08:23 AM

The 801 works best for dripping.

I drip, using the SLB801's from RMV. Very happy with them.

7 bucks apiece is hard to beat... free shipping on orders $14.00 or more.

EricMx45 · 09-10-2009, 09:21 PM

Im having all the same problems but problems aside I love the 801's vapor production and it really seems to bring out the flavor more. I've never really dripped much since Im afraid of flooding my atty and not to pumped on grabbing a bottle of juice every few minutes. How many dropps do you dripper's normally drip at one time? How many good hits does it normally produce?

EricMx45 · 09-10-2009, 09:31 PM

Oh I forgot to mention that my batteries are unsealed.

Quitter · 09-15-2009, 03:25 PM

I'm new to 801's ( have been a 510 user from the start). Just got a Janty Stick V2 and it uses an 801 atty/cart. I gotta tell ya it's been a less than satisfying experience! I've had all the issues mentioned above with leaking and bad or non existent wicking. What is the secret to making an 801 system work?! I tried a PTB mod like I've had on my 510's and it was a disaster! Has naybody here successfully done a PTB mod on an 801 that dosen't leak and wicks well? I'd love to know the secret!!

Closet Toker · 09-27-2009, 09:15 AM

One thing I know... not all 801's are created equal.

Performance varies from one manufacturer to another.

I use SLB801 "high bridge" atomizers, which I believe are made by the company Sedansa.

These are the only atty's I buy, because I really like the performance. I believe they are a 4 hole atomizer.

I only drip my liquid, and the 801 has a large reservoir that seems to hold 5-6 drops of liquid.

Once the atomizer reservoir is "full", I usually drip 2-3 drops at a time there after.

I have read that the 801's are not the best atomizers to use with a cartridge.

As far as leakage, it has not been a problem for me.

When the performance/taste starts lacking, I'll "wash" out the atomizer with pure grain alcohol.

This is a process I seem to do about every 2-3 days. I just chalk it up as "routine maintenance". I am a HEAVY user on my atomizer. I also use a "high power", 5 volt modded e cig.

I put 1-2 ml of alcohol in the atty. Then cover the top and bottom using fore finger and thumb, shake the atty back and forth. Empty and repeat... then blow out the atomizer and let dry.

This washing process cleans the mesh and thus returns the wicking back to "new". And of course it keeps the coil clean, and the air holes from getting "gunked" up.

I am a firm believer that a fowled atomizer runs the coil hotter, therefore reducing it's lifespan.

I have only been using the 801 atty for about two months now. I have been getting around two weeks use, before my atomizers "crap" out. My current atomizer is going on 17 days, an achievement I think is also due to my "learned", dripping technique.
Pretty good I feel, as I stated... I use 5 volts.

Quitter · 09-28-2009, 01:46 PM

Right now all I can do with the 801 (in a Janty Stick) is drip. Carts are preffered for me if I could ever get them to work. I vape alot in the car and dripping & driving is downright dangerous!

I tried the PTB with bad results and over the weekend tried the blue foam mod. It came close but had massive leaking issue. So I'm going to make an honest effort on the brass screen mod and see if I can get some success.

Either way these 801 carts are a drag!

08-13-2009, 04:31 PM	#14
SheerLuckHolmes Super Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tempe, Az Posts: 376	It is a matter of experiementation. The only times I get fluid in my mouth is when I overfill the cart. That is influenced by how I change the filler material when I change it. The tighter I pack the cart with filler the less I have to pay attention to how much juice I put in. The looser I pack the cart the more careful I have to be with how much juice to use each time to avoid juice-mouth. However, the looser the filler the easier the draw, the tighter the filler the harder the draw. Remember we are in the days of the model T, with respect to the car industry. The infancy of our new e-cigarette industry calls for a lot of consumer participation and consumer self education and expertise. As our industry grows into adolecence I see fiber filler carts becoming obsolete. There will be small gell capsules of juice from which the e-cig device will automatically inject the right amount of juice to the atty. But these expected days of a Mercedes e-cig are aways down the road. __________________

09-05-2009, 08:23 AM	#15
Closet Toker Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: La Crosse, WI. Posts: 539	The 801 works best for dripping. I drip, using the SLB801's from RMV. Very happy with them. 7 bucks apiece is hard to beat... free shipping on orders $14.00 or more. __________________ Prodigy/801

09-27-2009, 09:15 AM	#19
Closet Toker Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: La Crosse, WI. Posts: 539	One thing I know... not all 801's are created equal. Performance varies from one manufacturer to another. I use SLB801 "high bridge" atomizers, which I believe are made by the company Sedansa. These are the only atty's I buy, because I really like the performance. I believe they are a 4 hole atomizer. I only drip my liquid, and the 801 has a large reservoir that seems to hold 5-6 drops of liquid. Once the atomizer reservoir is "full", I usually drip 2-3 drops at a time there after. I have read that the 801's are not the best atomizers to use with a cartridge. As far as leakage, it has not been a problem for me. When the performance/taste starts lacking, I'll "wash" out the atomizer with pure grain alcohol. This is a process I seem to do about every 2-3 days. I just chalk it up as "routine maintenance". I am a HEAVY user on my atomizer. I also use a "high power", 5 volt modded e cig. I put 1-2 ml of alcohol in the atty. Then cover the top and bottom using fore finger and thumb, shake the atty back and forth. Empty and repeat... then blow out the atomizer and let dry. This washing process cleans the mesh and thus returns the wicking back to "new". And of course it keeps the coil clean, and the air holes from getting "gunked" up. I am a firm believer that a fowled atomizer runs the coil hotter, therefore reducing it's lifespan. I have only been using the 801 atty for about two months now. I have been getting around two weeks use, before my atomizers "crap" out. My current atomizer is going on 17 days, an achievement I think is also due to my "learned", dripping technique. Pretty good I feel, as I stated... I use 5 volts. __________________ Prodigy/801 Last edited by Closet Toker; 09-27-2009 at 10:00 AM.

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08-13-2009, 04:48 AM	#12
fellcolor Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 31	I'm having the same problem with my brand new 801 manual. I'm going to try restuffing a cart in the morning - because I do kinda like the vape, but I'm CONTINUOUSLY getting gobs of fluid in my mouth.

08-13-2009, 07:06 AM	#13
jboze Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 484	Not getting any fluid in my mouth but I'm getting leaks from between the atomiser and battery on my manuals. I pull the cart cap off and it looks dry on the top so I doubt it's overfilled. Maybe the cart stuffing is just ****e?

09-10-2009, 09:21 PM	#16
EricMx45 Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 35	Im having all the same problems but problems aside I love the 801's vapor production and it really seems to bring out the flavor more. I've never really dripped much since Im afraid of flooding my atty and not to pumped on grabbing a bottle of juice every few minutes. How many dropps do you dripper's normally drip at one time? How many good hits does it normally produce?

09-10-2009, 09:31 PM	#17
EricMx45 Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 35	Oh I forgot to mention that my batteries are unsealed.

09-15-2009, 03:25 PM	#18
Quitter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 234	I'm new to 801's ( have been a 510 user from the start). Just got a Janty Stick V2 and it uses an 801 atty/cart. I gotta tell ya it's been a less than satisfying experience! I've had all the issues mentioned above with leaking and bad or non existent wicking. What is the secret to making an 801 system work?! I tried a PTB mod like I've had on my 510's and it was a disaster! Has naybody here successfully done a PTB mod on an 801 that dosen't leak and wicks well? I'd love to know the secret!!

09-28-2009, 01:46 PM	#20
Quitter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 234	Right now all I can do with the 801 (in a Janty Stick) is drip. Carts are preffered for me if I could ever get them to work. I vape alot in the car and dripping & driving is downright dangerous! I tried the PTB with bad results and over the weekend tried the blue foam mod. It came close but had massive leaking issue. So I'm going to make an honest effort on the brass screen mod and see if I can get some success. Either way these 801 carts are a drag!