Most RELIABLE 801-compatible atty/supplier?

[MargotA575]

There are threads here about problems with high-bridge 801 attys, but I don't think that's an issue for me - I drip, so cartridge contact with wick is irrelevant.

I love my penstyle (and my Prodigy with an 801-compatible atty), but the atomizers have been so unreliable and inconsistent. Some have vaped well for a couple weeks before dying; some have been DOA; and some have worked only for a couple days or just limped from the start.

I've ordered from various suppliers, e.g., Rocky Mountain Vapor, Totally Wicked, Heaven Gifts, and Puresmoker ... and I'm not sure I see a pattern. The 5-pack I got on sale from TW was the worst (but that is a small sample), two of the three I got from Puresmoker were good for awhile (another very small sample), and the dozen (over time) that I got from RMV varied considerably. I think the two gifts from Heaven were OK. [I just love playing HG's unusual name.]

I've read here that many people are happier with the BE112 or Joye302 than with the current DSE801, but the reasons stated all relate to how well the atty interacts with the cartridge material. And I don't care about that. Restuffing cartridges, filling them and topping them off using syringes, straws, or toothpicks - all are just a pain in the tush for me. Dripping is so easy ... and effective (the juice definitely gets on the wick).

Any insights or atty/supplier experiences relating to this atty reliability issue will be greatly appreciated!

P.S. As I was preparing this post, one of my last functioning 801 attys just died....... [i.e., shock, then figurative tears, then anger] Back to my no flavor / no throat hit 510 ... and to my KR808D-1 with excellent but expensive GreenCig carts.

I am new to this forum but have been vaping since Aug. 10th. I have a DSE801 and DSE103 (Like the menthol & flavors, just not ALL the time). I usually get DSE801 attys etc from either VaporKings (I like colors) or ARLO LLC (plain white attys are $7). They both have fast shipping and good customer service and support. I have attys from both places (4), since late Aug and only had 1 head south.

I read some of the problems with attys losing vaping power and found at least 1 reason why. When you have that problem, pull out cart and see how much moisture is on it. I really don't think its flooding as much as it is excess condensation. Unless ecig designers have solved the physics problem of how to repeal the law of gravity, liquids flow down not up, unless they are vaporized first. The condensation on the OUTSIDE of the cart blocks the little vents on the mouthpiece and stops the air circulation needed for vapor volum. Just wipe it off and take a longer, less hard drag and that should solve problem. I've had it work everytime, except when that 1 atty croaked.

[VR59]

Hi Don, now I am disappointed too - hearing your opinion about the be112's. So you sort of agree with Mikie likes it in that the BE112's don't seem to produce like the DSE801's?

By they way I have been visiting this forum for probably a month and a half now and have read many of your posts, in fact I really got a lot from your beginner's guide, thanks so much!
I have to laugh though as I kept waiting and waiting for part 5! I knew before hand I wanted a mod but wasn't sure what atty would work well etc. Long story short, about 3 days before part 5 came out, I purchased a prodigy with an 801. Nice! (I sort of chuckled when I later found that was your choice as well).

So, most of my experience with vaping is with the DSE801 at various voltages, most all on the prodigy or a quick home made passthrough I made to plug into the wall. The latter I had run at 4.5V and the prodigy I run at 5, at least most of the time. I guess I've had adequate success with the attys, though a few have worked great, a few others not so much though I've never gotten a complete dud yet.

Regarding another thread I believe you started on the 801 though, I just can't believe they are passe? I say this because recently I also wished to experiment a bit and ended up buying a few 510 attys and an adapter for the prodigy. Let me say, at least in my opinion they definitely burn much hotter than the 801's sacrificing some flavor. As another poster stated, (forgotten his name now), the 510 definitely seems better suited at lower voltages.

Oh gosh, sorry if I seem to be getting off track, my 5 year old is needing lots of attention, hehe. Anyhow I am kind of thinking I've come up with a pretty good set up to suit a wide variety of needs, though I guess this has nothing to do with the best atty for the 801. But, that being said, I enjoy all of the options I have with minimal fuss. Starting with the prodigy, I now have adapters for either the 801 or the 510. I also purchased a non resistored switch so if I run the CR123s I can use either 5 or 6 volts, (6 Volts seems to much for any of these atty's to me). Or, I can go with the 3.7V battery and no resistor which seems to suit the 510 better.

Now, not sure if you mod or not, but ... what I really like is a very inexpensive mod I made for home use. Someone posted a similar description for a cigar type I believe, anyway it is basically a wooden dowel with a thumbtack on either end to replace the batteries when I am home. I did have to dremel out a slot in the end of the prodigy for the wires to come out but no more worries of passthroughs or usb ports etc. For $15 I just got a variable output AC (to DC) adapter with 1800mA at Fry's. With a simple rotary switch I can have either 3, 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9 and I believe 12. Anyhow, it's really nice now, when I get home I just pop out the batteries and stick in the wooden dowel. I can use either the resistor or non resistor switch and either my 801 or 510 attys at a very wide variety of voltages, (3, 3.7, 4.5, 5 or 6 and on).

Sorry to dabble on but when I read you were having passthrough problems I often wonder why more people don't do this, it's very inexpensive and easy to do. Also, thanks for the BE112 advice, wonder if my best option for the penstyle attys continues to be Heaven Gifts?

[VR59]

Just a quick follow up on the dowel rod battery or should I say passthrough replacement, this is similar to what I did except I used a thumbtack on each end, (the bottom one contacts the spring on the end cap), and had to cut a slot in the bottom/side of my prodigy for the wire. But ... now my prodigy does it all, at home or on the go

The .08 cent USB mod

Also, Don, if you are going with the 510, I am hearing some say to try dipping with the 306 as it fits on 510 gear ... hmmmm yet another atty/set up to consider, will the spending ever stop? haha

[VR59]

Was curios if anyone else has tried or come across this post on resurrecting old attys?

Atomizer Resurrection, Pt 1

One of my most favorite DSE801 attys, (wonderful flavor), was giving up the ghost and this actually worked quite well. I just used a small to medium sized paper clip inserted into the hole on the battery end and it works like a champ now. Check it out ... worth a try on saving some old attys.

Also, it sounds then like the general consensus, (well, ok two experienced vapors: Mikie likes it and Dondaboom) is that the BE112's don't perform as well as the DSE801's? I was thinking about restocking soon and was anxious to try those BE112's but I guess as far as performance goes I might as well just stick with the DSE801's from say heaven gifts? I think they are something like 4 bucks there if you get a quantity? (Plus shipping of course).

[smonomo]

Just got my BE112's today, luckily they only had two in stock - I don't like them, the draw is too hard ... I'm going to have to poke around with one them and see if I can free it up a bit.

[smonomo]

Second thoughts on these B112's....

The draw is still a little tight, but very smooth, with good flavor and throat hit. The draw is very quiet compared to my gurgling TW's. No matter what I do, they never seem to flood.
The TW's flood in a heart beat....and I need all I can get ...So I guess I'll be sticking with the BE112's.

[crmartin]

Ecigsupply has the best prices I have seen. A complete 801 kit for $26.95, atty's for $6.95 and batteries for $8.95.

Dse-801 penstyle

[DonDaBoomVape]

Ecigsupply has the best prices I have seen. A complete 801 kit for $26.95, atty's for $6.95 and batteries for $8.95.

Dse-801 penstyle

That is quite an impressive price for an 801 starter kit! However, I am a bit concerned with the strong denial of any type of warranty or guarantee on their "Shipping & Returns" page (which doesn't even mention shipping).

Their 801 and 510 parts (which I need) are comparably priced to Rocky Mountain Vaper's, which provides free shipping.

I think I'll pass for now.

[DonDaBoomVape]

...Also, it sounds then like the general consensus, (well, ok two experienced vapors: Mikie likes it and Dondaboom) is that the BE112's don't perform as well as the DSE801's?

Don't let Sun Vaporizer hear you say that. He swears by the BE112. [Of course, (if I remember correctly) he owns a couple hundred BE112 attys, so he has a vested interest.]

Seriously, my negative experience and comments have been based on a very small sample: 3 attys from a little-known supplier. Sun is not the only ECF member who has praised the BE112.

And, to clarify, they're not terrible ... just not as good as my 801s (when they've worked). I'm vaping one now; it's more of an effort (as smonomo mentioned) and the vapor is disappointing, but the throat hit is good and the flavor is not bad.

I should be getting a couple more 801s from Rocky Mountain Vapor tomorrow to make a direct comparison (rather than one from memory).

Continuing my search for the "perfect" penstyle (for dripping).

[DonDaBoomVape]

I am new to this forum but have been vaping since Aug. 10th. I have a DSE801 and DSE103 (Like the menthol & flavors, just not ALL the time). I usually get DSE801 attys etc from either VaporKings (I like colors) or ARLO LLC (plain white attys are $7). They both have fast shipping and good customer service and support. I have attys from both places (4), since late Aug and only had 1 head south.

I read some of the problems with attys losing vaping power and found at least 1 reason why. When you have that problem, pull out cart and see how much moisture is on it. I really don't think its flooding as much as it is excess condensation. Unless ecig designers have solved the physics problem of how to repeal the law of gravity, liquids flow down not up, unless they are vaporized first. The condensation on the OUTSIDE of the cart blocks the little vents on the mouthpiece and stops the air circulation needed for vapor volum. Just wipe it off and take a longer, less hard drag and that should solve problem. I've had it work everytime, except when that 1 atty croaked.

Probably good advice for a cart user, however I only drip (i.e., no cart).