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Old 10-25-2009, 07:58 PM   #1
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Question Most RELIABLE 801-compatible atty/supplier?

There are threads here about problems with high-bridge 801 attys, but I don't think that's an issue for me - I drip, so cartridge contact with wick is irrelevant.

I love my penstyle (and my Prodigy with an 801-compatible atty), but the atomizers have been so unreliable and inconsistent. Some have vaped well for a couple weeks before dying; some have been DOA; and some have worked only for a couple days or just limped from the start.

I've ordered from various suppliers, e.g., Rocky Mountain Vapor, Totally Wicked, Heaven Gifts, and Puresmoker ... and I'm not sure I see a pattern. The 5-pack I got on sale from TW was the worst (but that is a small sample), two of the three I got from Puresmoker were good for awhile (another very small sample), and the dozen (over time) that I got from RMV varied considerably. I think the two gifts from Heaven were OK. [I just love playing HG's unusual name.]

I've read here that many people are happier with the BE112 or Joye302 than with the current DSE801, but the reasons stated all relate to how well the atty interacts with the cartridge material. And I don't care about that. Restuffing cartridges, filling them and topping them off using syringes, straws, or toothpicks - all are just a pain in the tush for me. Dripping is so easy ... and effective (the juice definitely gets on the wick).

Any insights or atty/supplier experiences relating to this atty reliability issue will be greatly appreciated!

P.S. As I was preparing this post, one of my last functioning 801 attys just died....... [i.e., shock, then figurative tears, then anger] Back to my no flavor / no throat hit 510 ... and to my KR808D-1 with excellent but expensive GreenCig carts.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:01 PM   #2
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Interested in this also. I want to get some 901 atty's for my 808 manual.
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It was recommended to me to use the bestecig be112 with my high volt/dripping combo. I have yet to try it since I don't have my hv mod yet. Just a few more days and I will have it.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:13 PM   #4
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It was recommended to me to use the bestecig be112 with my high volt/dripping combo. I have yet to try it since I don't have my hv mod yet. Just a few more days and I will have it.
Thanks, 6linkslam! Do you know the rationale behind that person's recommendation? That is, was it related to my reliability issue or that high-bridge wick/cartridge contact issue?

BTW, I've been considering switching over to the M201. I know it won't work with my Prodigy, but I spend most of my time vaping penstyle (better for my long, liesurely vaping sessions).
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Thanks, 6linkslam! Do you know the rationale behind that person's recommendation? That is, was it related to my reliability issue or that high-bridge wick/cartridge contact issue?

BTW, I've been considering switching over to the M201. I know it won't work with my Prodigy, but I spend most of my time vaping penstyle (better for my long, liesurely vaping sessions).
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I don't know if I can help Don, as I'm STILL working this out for myself. But, I will offer what I've found out.

First -- I don't vape at high voltage so you can stop reading now. LOL Sometimes I use carts, sometimes I drip. It depends if my hands are busy or not. (at work)

But, I have managed to get the desired TH at normal voltage through trial and error of 801 clones. Toward that end, I'm happiest when my battery (10440) is freshly charged -- somewhere around 4.2 volts. I change them out more often than need be to keep the voltage up as high as possible.

'Tis a small sample size of each but here goes --

m201 atty -- nice throat hit due to a wide surface area bridge. the drawback with the m201 is that it is a very tight pull -- like sucking the proverbial golf ball through a straw. I haven't been able to adjust my draw on this (Vapre51) but I haven't given it much of a shot either.

BE112 atty -- I bought 5 of these for trial. The first one I used was dreamy for a few weeks then it slackened off noticeably -- still lots of vapor (that I could care less about) but the great TH waned. I tried cleaning it but it hasn't made much of a difference. If it's history it was a heavenly 3 weeks for us both. <g>

Joye 302 -- Just fired this one up last night for the first time. It sizzles like a 510, loud and hearty. This will be my atty of choice if it lasts a couple of weeks. Outstanding TH that I would compare to a Prodigy that I used last night. Will it last? Time will tell and it could just be one of those God-like attys that we get once in a while.

I'll say this too... deciding which is the atty of choice comes down to which attys one doesn't like before paring the field of the contenders. The RN4072s leak. They annoy me. TW's attys are RN4072s.

The m201, Joye 302, BE112 did not leak one iota for me. That's important to me as I also use a JS. Leaky attys and the JS do not get along at all. Ironically, the KB attys I have also leak so I don't/can't use them in the JS.

And because I sometimes use carts I've left the high bridge attys that I've tried out of the equation altogether. To be honest, the RMV attys and the true DSE 801s didn't do it for me anyway.

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I have experienced the problems you described in your post. When I moved to a high-voltage device, SLB801's were failing at an alarming rate. Granted, they were never designed for this type of abuse.

I prefer the BE112 paired with a high-voltage device. I can pop an 801 in less than two weeks running at 6 volts, but a BE112 may last closer to a month. They appear to be more robust. I exclusively use BE112's on my Super-T with adjustable airflow adapter.

On my 5 volt manual passthrough, 801's last longer - the assumption is lower voltage, lower stress on the heating coil. I am using up my supply of 801's on the passthrough.

Joye/Janty/JKBC-302's are real nice, durable options. Unfortunately they are three times the price of a BE112, and do not last any longer than the BE112.
Bridges are meaningless to me since I only drip.
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I have had alot of problems with true 801's, but the RN4072's have been very dependable for me. 801's I get from 1 day to two weeks, any more is bonus time. The RN4072's have been lasting me a long time.

The one I am using now was put in to use August 18th and I vape at least 3-4 ml per day. This one came from a TW 5-pack of which I also gave my uncle one, and his is still going strong as well.

Note that I am vaping at 3.7v and that could be a big factor.

BTW: If you switch from a true 801 to an RN4072 make sure to lift the filler up to the top of the cart. The taller 801 bridge will push the filler too far up and it won't make enough contact (causing overheating and burning it out). If you use an 801 cart in a RN4072 the cart filler should be even with the top of the plastic - not recessed at all.
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I too have been through many of all the different atty's. In my experience the ones from Janty rank right up there, but the BE-112 is much better not only for high voltage (going on 4 weeks with first one at 6 volts)but also much cheaper. I get mine from ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES / E-LIQUID/E-CIGARETTE LIQUID / E-CIGS / E-Cigarette / Houston, TX They are us based and the price and speedy deivery are great. Plus shipping is free. I get a 5 pack in a really nice chrome (they also have black and white) for $45 to my door. He is also super fast to answer emails. It's doesn't specify on the site for the 5 pack of atty's but they are indeed BE112's. I think you will be very happy with those. The one I use has lasted longer than any other and performs well with high volts and 3.7
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I too have been through many of all the different atty's. In my experience the ones from Janty rank right up there, but the BE-112 is much better not only for high voltage (going on 4 weeks with first one at 6 volts)but also much cheaper. I get mine from ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES / E-LIQUID/E-CIGARETTE LIQUID / E-CIGS / E-Cigarette / Houston, TX They are us based and the price and speedy deivery are great. Plus shipping is free. I get a 5 pack in a really nice chrome (they also have black and white) for $45 to my door. He is also super fast to answer emails. It's doesn't specify on the site for the 5 pack of atty's but they are indeed BE112's. I think you will be very happy with those. The one I use has lasted longer than any other and performs well with high volts and 3.7
Thank you all for your input! I quoted Parmacrafter's because it was the most targeted to my specific issues.

I was unaware of any US suppier for BestEcig products. (And with free shipping.) Good to know. I think BE112s will be the ones I'll go with for my next order. Glad I asked!
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