Manufacturers/Suppliers: What's in my atomizer?

[trog100]

Originally Posted by jamie

Yet another item needing disclosure, that it appears we do not have. Just a reminder bump.

i dont suppose it ever will jamie.. just like i dont suppose my attempts to find out how long an atomizer should last will ever get an answer..

big sellers use this place when it suits them but simply ignore any direct question that dosnt suit them..

trog

[jarvis]

Ruyan responded to my question about these fibers in this thread about half way down. Solution delivery idea
and yes, they will burn eventually, no matter how damp with e-liquid they stay, all wicks burn eventually that's why I posted this idea design change.

Just flip back the steel wool and plug a new coil with new fibers in after a few cartridges.

[trog100]

Originally Posted by jarvis

Ruyan responded to my question about these fibers in this thread about half way down. Solution delivery idea
and yes, they will burn eventually, no matter how damp with e-liquid they stay, all wicks burn eventually that's why I posted this idea design change.

Just flip back the steel wool and plug a new coil with new fibers in after a few cartridges.

why not just sell realistically (about two dollars) priced plug in replacement atomizer pots.. not need for fancy flip back arches then and far less fiddly to change..

the current design of these things is crazy and ruyan prices are even crazier..

change might come but i dont expect it soon..

i am getting pissed off with the poorly designed and over priced junk we are being sold..

but i am a confirmed e smoker so apart from the odd whinge will have to put up with it..

trog

ps.. jarvis.. as that stuff burns off does the the coil start to vapourize less efficently.. in short produce less vapour.. i am trying to find an easy answer to why all atomizers seem to predictably perform less well after after so much use.. could it be the stuff they coat the coil with burns off.. ???

[jarvis]

Yes, that's a good solution too. The first manufacturers that makes these things serviceable will definitely get my money.

[jamie]

Originally Posted by jarvis

Ruyan responded to my question about these fibers in this thread about half way down.

Thanks Jarvis. So they agreed that it is "some kind of synthetic fiber", however didn't say which specifically.

[Kate]

Originally Posted by jamie

I've been having a problem with one of my ecigs.... little to no vapor usually, and sometimes a burning odor/taste as folks have discussed many times.

The steel wool portion of the atomizer is a U-shape that juts out of the atomizer 'tube' and sits down into the cartridge. I've examined it a few times and noticed a beige'y color inside the U and down in the atomizer, just where I could see. Below the steel wool, not part of it. Finally tonight I stuck the end of a tweezer into the U and below is what I pulled out, the beige'y stuff I had been seeing. If other pictures and discussions have clarified this, my apologies for missing it. Everyone might know but me! And thanks in advance for any info.

Sorry to bump an old thread but I've just read this from Stan on another:

"What worries me is even if this stuff doesn't burn, is that it's continually degrading during the lifetime of the atomiser, and whatever fumes its giving off are being combined with the inhaled vapor and accumulating inside me." Auto Cleaning Frequency

Does anyone know what those fibres in atomisers are made of? Are they in all atomisers? When they degrade or burn is that what causes atomisers to die? Will the fumes cause us to die?

Questions, questions ...

[leaford]

Try burning it. If it burns and crumbles into ash, it's organic fiber. If it melts and beads up, it's synthetic.

[Kate]

I'll be dissecting any dead atomisers I have from now on to analyse what's in them. I threw a couple of RN4072 ones away last week and am kicking myself now.

If the fibre around the heating coils is degrading it might not matter if it's synthetic or natural material, it could still be leaching toxins into the vapour. I suppose organic carbon would be a more natural way to poison ourselves than plastic fumes.

[leaford]

True, but it's the only kind of test I could think of doing on it that doesn't involve like labratory equipment and stuff.

[Kate]

I wonder if kevlar is absorbent, it's supposed to be heat resistant I think. I suppose that would need research to see if it reacted to chemicals in the eliquid.

If there was a material that was absorbent, chemical proof and heat resistant then maybe it could be wrapped around a heating element the way the Loong Totem atomisers work. It wouldn't burn though like the current 'cotton' filler.