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Kate · 12-27-2008, 05:38 PM

I did use it for dripping, I never had much luck with cartridges on it.

Thinking about it I'm 80% convinced that the burned black stuff is not melted/burned wick but rather residue from eliquid.

trog100 · 12-27-2008, 05:47 PM

i dont have any pics but the loong totem (throw away) atomizer idea has done away with the wire wool part and the ceramic pot.. and the separate wool cart in essence..

its just a wool cart the heater coil sits in the middle vertically.. each side of the heater coil is a small tube the ends of the heater coil wires are in this tube and it also lets air be drawn thru the cart wool and past the heater coil in the middle..

the wool and atomizer sit inside a similar stainless steel tube with brass threads just like the older design.. the whole thing is covered in plastic or paper to look and act like a mouthpiece..

the heater coil does seem to be in direct contact with the cart wool.. no wire wool or pot to separate the two.. vapes well when wet but tastes like sh-t as the wool dries out.. win some lose some..

trog

RjG · 12-27-2008, 08:16 PM

We yanked apart a couple of those longTotem style e-cig.com disposable atomizers at work, in various stages full-medium-dry. The stuff around the coil, and the filler material, appears to be "baby wipes" material. And it starts burning away pretty much right off the bat. By the time you get close to the end (cart still damp), a significant amount of the smaller bit is already completely gone, burned away. The coil is 1.6ohms on those, in case you're curious.

K0rvet · 12-28-2008, 01:50 AM

The black "case" almost looks like that cheap carbon fiber packing stuff like they use in electrical switches. I see a lot of it inside electric guitar control rheostats. The grease looks a lot like electrolytic compound put inside spark plug wires at contact points to help prevent moisture from interfering with the electrical connections. The only difference is, most electrolytic "grease" is white... It's basically silica gel so shouldn't pose a health risk - at least, I hope not!

RjG · 12-28-2008, 03:06 AM

That atomizer mesh is metal of some kind, not carbon fiber.

There is NO dielectric grease (or ANY grease for that matter) in there, I can assure you, without a doubt....

Thanks for guessing though, :-)

exogenesis · 03-14-2009, 11:49 PM

Some info, originally posted in
Oils and Atomizers

Found the DSE901 atomizer (from TW) analysis data:

Fibre details:

fibre is silicon dioxide = glass fibre
Coil wire details:

Wire is nichrome 0.1mm (estimated from image above)

Krakkan · 03-15-2009, 02:57 AM

Shouldn't have fibers in there I am guessing.

bizzyb0t · 03-15-2009, 07:09 AM

Very interesting breakdown of the contents of the atomizer. Thanks for doing the research exogenesis!

Jaaxx · 03-15-2009, 07:35 AM

Those pics make me want to puke. Maybe try cleaning the atomizers first (unless that is the point.) Sick! LOL

kinabaloo · 03-22-2009, 02:45 PM

Jarvis - if the atomiser was hinged, it would likely not work so well - on either side. And there is the matter of getting to it - what with the battery connector in the way.

12-27-2008, 05:47 PM	#72
trog100 Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 3,284	i dont have any pics but the loong totem (throw away) atomizer idea has done away with the wire wool part and the ceramic pot.. and the separate wool cart in essence.. its just a wool cart the heater coil sits in the middle vertically.. each side of the heater coil is a small tube the ends of the heater coil wires are in this tube and it also lets air be drawn thru the cart wool and past the heater coil in the middle.. the wool and atomizer sit inside a similar stainless steel tube with brass threads just like the older design.. the whole thing is covered in plastic or paper to look and act like a mouthpiece.. the heater coil does seem to be in direct contact with the cart wool.. no wire wool or pot to separate the two.. vapes well when wet but tastes like sh-t as the wool dries out.. win some lose some.. trog Last edited by trog100; 12-27-2008 at 05:51 PM.

03-14-2009, 11:49 PM	#76
exogenesis ὅπερ ἔδει δεῖξαι Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK Posts: 560	Some info, originally posted in Oils and Atomizers Found the DSE901 atomizer (from TW) analysis data: Fibre details: fibre is silicon dioxide = glass fibre Coil wire details: Wire is nichrome 0.1mm (estimated from image above) Last edited by exogenesis; 03-15-2009 at 12:04 AM. Reason: wrong wire size

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12-27-2008, 05:38 PM	#71
Kate Moved On Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 7,355	I did use it for dripping, I never had much luck with cartridges on it. Thinking about it I'm 80% convinced that the burned black stuff is not melted/burned wick but rather residue from eliquid.

12-27-2008, 08:16 PM	#73
RjG ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton AB Canada Posts: 557	We yanked apart a couple of those longTotem style e-cig.com disposable atomizers at work, in various stages full-medium-dry. The stuff around the coil, and the filler material, appears to be "baby wipes" material. And it starts burning away pretty much right off the bat. By the time you get close to the end (cart still damp), a significant amount of the smaller bit is already completely gone, burned away. The coil is 1.6ohms on those, in case you're curious.

12-28-2008, 01:50 AM	#74
K0rvet Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 30	The black "case" almost looks like that cheap carbon fiber packing stuff like they use in electrical switches. I see a lot of it inside electric guitar control rheostats. The grease looks a lot like electrolytic compound put inside spark plug wires at contact points to help prevent moisture from interfering with the electrical connections. The only difference is, most electrolytic "grease" is white... It's basically silica gel so shouldn't pose a health risk - at least, I hope not!

12-28-2008, 03:06 AM	#75
RjG ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton AB Canada Posts: 557	That atomizer mesh is metal of some kind, not carbon fiber. There is NO dielectric grease (or ANY grease for that matter) in there, I can assure you, without a doubt.... Thanks for guessing though, :-)

03-15-2009, 02:57 AM	#77
Krakkan USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 1,380	Shouldn't have fibers in there I am guessing.

03-15-2009, 07:09 AM	#78
bizzyb0t US Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Denver CO, USA Posts: 704 Blog Entries: 1 Tweet this post!	Very interesting breakdown of the contents of the atomizer. Thanks for doing the research exogenesis!

03-22-2009, 02:45 PM	#80
kinabaloo ECF Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: london uk / beijing china Posts: 3,306	Jarvis - if the atomiser was hinged, it would likely not work so well - on either side. And there is the matter of getting to it - what with the battery connector in the way.