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breakfastchef · 09-26-2009, 01:31 PM

Lots of good technical information above. Like one bathroom scale to another will not read the same weight, your meter is your personal measurment standard. Whatever your particular meter reads in resistance on a good atomizer is the important number you should use as your reference point.

When you have no continutity in an atomizer (check the meter user guide) with infinite resistance readings, it is officially dead. Either throw it out or tear it apart to explore the inside. Don't bother cleaning it. It is dead.

When the atomizer still heats on freshly charged batteries, but you seem to be working hard to draw really good vapor from the device, take a resistance reading. Generally, I will find the resistance has double or tripled from that of a new atomizer. For me, this is an early warning sign of impending illness and death. I often will pitch the atomizer at this point. If you want to experiment with cleaning, try it on an ill, not dead, atomizer. I have never successfully reduced the resistance on an atomizer using several cleaning methods.

NandyDC · 09-28-2009, 04:10 PM

Thanks for tons of info here. All my 510 attys are around 2.6 and my 910 around 3.6. One dead Super Mini atty is reading 0, that atty comes dead after a fall, my bad

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LameBMX · 09-30-2009, 10:25 AM

Boa279,
That level might be better off in the modding area, I believe this original threads intention was to essentially determine if the resistance measurement approximated the life or death of the atty. And if so, then to determine a list of expected atty measurements.

breakfastchef:
You need to calibrated your bathroom scale man. Measuring instruments should be the same across the board. Imagine if the carpenters building your house had their personal measurement standard tape measures. The older analog meters were zero'd out before use by touching the leads together and adjust where the needle was. This essentially did the math I mentioned previously that use Digital Meter owners should do. One user expressed my reason for posting perfectly when he had a high resistance reading to his meter, and his atty was still good. My point was to obtain more accurate reading from people not trained in a meters use. Especially considering how low the values are we are dealing with. With that in mind, someone should not need a reference "good" atty to determine if their atty is dead. I would be fairly confident if you have a 510 it should be around 2.5V (ref prev post concerning 10% rule) a 910 should probably be around 3.5V, and people need to post up here with some more atty's for us so we can round this out more for the future people that read this.

MHR7331 · 10-03-2009, 04:33 PM

Out of curiosity, how much resistance variance do you think is attributed to primer fluid on new attys? I thought about measuring one after blowing out the primer stuff, but got really lazy. lol

LameBMX · 10-04-2009, 02:48 PM

It is probably very little difference, and you would need an insanely accurate meter to determine any difference. The heating element seems to be 2.5 Ohms to 3.5 Ohms, and if that is run in parallel with oh 10K Ohms for the primer, the meter would read 2.5 Ohms. That is a quick approximation but I am too lazy to bother with a calculator this early in the morning. I am barely managing my coffee at the moment. But the lesson is with the very low resistance you will need something else with that very low resistance to make a real impact on its reading. For the record

Taelon · 10-08-2009, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigozone

just wondering what the ohms readings you get when testing the DSE103

2.5-4OHMs @ 20°C, 3 probes.

Sarah Wang · 11-09-2009, 02:20 PM

i am confused too. why there are so many zeros on the dial!

krapanj · 11-10-2009, 09:11 AM

Hi, I have been vap-ing for over a year now, I have used just about all the different models - the only problem with all of them is the atomizer.
As a heavy vap-er I have found the following:
The penstyle atomizers work for on average 2-3 days - The expensive Jantys a couple of days longer....
The 901 atomizers about the same...

My favorite device is the "mini-pipe". ( But never put the battery is upside down - it will destroy it in less that one second).

If you can afford to buy about 20 attys per month e-smoking is great.

IT IS TIME SOMEONE PRODUCED A RELIABLE ATOMIZER.....

LameBMX · 11-11-2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krapanj

Hi, I have been vap-ing for over a year now, I have used just about all the different models - the only problem with all of them is the atomizer.
As a heavy vap-er I have found the following:
The penstyle atomizers work for on average 2-3 days - The expensive Jantys a couple of days longer....
The 901 atomizers about the same...

My favorite device is the "mini-pipe". ( But never put the battery is upside down - it will destroy it in less that one second).

If you can afford to buy about 20 attys per month e-smoking is great.

IT IS TIME SOMEONE PRODUCED A RELIABLE ATOMIZER.....

That is quite odd since I have a 101 day old atty, that still works (not great anymore lol) But I believe you should really get back on track. Your little rant has nothing to do with this thread. I see no facts. Please repost with the actual resistance readings from testing the working atty's and contribute (and the readings from ones that you feel are no longer working, just label appropriately). We see what the 510, and possibly 901 are supposed to be. More information will help future visitors!

VapoRize · 11-15-2009, 08:12 PM

that helped me alot

09-30-2009, 10:25 AM	#73
LameBMX Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stow, OH Posts: 76	Boa279, That level might be better off in the modding area, I believe this original threads intention was to essentially determine if the resistance measurement approximated the life or death of the atty. And if so, then to determine a list of expected atty measurements. breakfastchef: You need to calibrated your bathroom scale man. Measuring instruments should be the same across the board. Imagine if the carpenters building your house had their personal measurement standard tape measures. The older analog meters were zero'd out before use by touching the leads together and adjust where the needle was. This essentially did the math I mentioned previously that use Digital Meter owners should do. One user expressed my reason for posting perfectly when he had a high resistance reading to his meter, and his atty was still good. My point was to obtain more accurate reading from people not trained in a meters use. Especially considering how low the values are we are dealing with. With that in mind, someone should not need a reference "good" atty to determine if their atty is dead. I would be fairly confident if you have a 510 it should be around 2.5V (ref prev post concerning 10% rule) a 910 should probably be around 3.5V, and people need to post up here with some more atty's for us so we can round this out more for the future people that read this. __________________

10-04-2009, 02:48 PM	#75
LameBMX Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stow, OH Posts: 76	It is probably very little difference, and you would need an insanely accurate meter to determine any difference. The heating element seems to be 2.5 Ohms to 3.5 Ohms, and if that is run in parallel with oh 10K Ohms for the primer, the meter would read 2.5 Ohms. That is a quick approximation but I am too lazy to bother with a calculator this early in the morning. I am barely managing my coffee at the moment. But the lesson is with the very low resistance you will need something else with that very low resistance to make a real impact on its reading. For the record __________________

11-10-2009, 09:11 AM	#78
krapanj Peter Saxon Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 32	General veiw of atomaizers Hi, I have been vap-ing for over a year now, I have used just about all the different models - the only problem with all of them is the atomizer. As a heavy vap-er I have found the following: The penstyle atomizers work for on average 2-3 days - The expensive Jantys a couple of days longer.... The 901 atomizers about the same... My favorite device is the "mini-pipe". ( But never put the battery is upside down - it will destroy it in less that one second). If you can afford to buy about 20 attys per month e-smoking is great. IT IS TIME SOMEONE PRODUCED A RELIABLE ATOMIZER..... __________________ *Peter Saxon* Per Ardua Ad Astra *Krapanj*

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09-26-2009, 01:31 PM	#71
breakfastchef ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,053	Lots of good technical information above. Like one bathroom scale to another will not read the same weight, your meter is your personal measurment standard. Whatever your particular meter reads in resistance on a good atomizer is the important number you should use as your reference point. When you have no continutity in an atomizer (check the meter user guide) with infinite resistance readings, it is officially dead. Either throw it out or tear it apart to explore the inside. Don't bother cleaning it. It is dead. When the atomizer still heats on freshly charged batteries, but you seem to be working hard to draw really good vapor from the device, take a resistance reading. Generally, I will find the resistance has double or tripled from that of a new atomizer. For me, this is an early warning sign of impending illness and death. I often will pitch the atomizer at this point. If you want to experiment with cleaning, try it on an ill, not dead, atomizer. I have never successfully reduced the resistance on an atomizer using several cleaning methods.

09-28-2009, 04:10 PM	#72
NandyDC Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Juan, PR Posts: 35 Tweet this post!	Thanks for tons of info here. All my 510 attys are around 2.6 and my 910 around 3.6. One dead Super Mini atty is reading 0, that atty comes dead after a fall, my bad .

10-03-2009, 04:33 PM	#74
MHR7331 The Desolate One Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 268	Out of curiosity, how much resistance variance do you think is attributed to primer fluid on new attys? I thought about measuring one after blowing out the primer stuff, but got really lazy. lol

11-09-2009, 02:20 PM	#77
Sarah Wang Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 14	i am confused too. why there are so many zeros on the dial!

11-15-2009, 08:12 PM	#80
VapoRize Full Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Phila,Pa USA Posts: 17	that helped me alot