These things just don't work.

[20adayman]

So far I have tried the DES-901 and the RN4082 and here is my experience.

The 901 bought this one first - it worked for about a day and was great then it stopped working even though I recharged the battery So I bought a spare battery and a pack of 5 atomizers, none of which worked for more than a few minutes at a time, with either battery.
This product is way too temperamental to be a replacement for cigarettes. I need it to work when I need a cigarette, not five hours later and only for two minutes.

The RN4082 - it worked for less than an hour then no vapour whatsoever even after the battery is fully recharged. When it did work it wasn't as good as the 901. Again way too temperamental.

I'm detecting a lot of dishonesty on this forum (I suspect most of you are e-cig sellers) because I have been trawling this forum and I cannot find a single post mentioning how inconsistent and temperamental this technology actually is.
Real cigarettes may kill you, but at least they work.

Conclusion: The e-cig is a truly great idea but the technology isn't quite there yet for this to be a true alternative to cigarettes. When I spend 25 pounds on a product it is not acceptable that it stops working after one hour, or one day.

It says a lot that this product is only available online, if it was sold on the high street it would have to be a thousand times more durable or it would be withdrawn.

[CaSHMeRe]

Originally Posted by 20adayman

So far I have tried the DES-901 and the RN4082 and here is my experience.

The 901 bought this one first - it worked for about a day and was great then it stopped working even though I recharged the battery So I bought a spare battery and a pack of 5 atomizers, none of which worked for more than a few minutes at a time, with either battery.
This product is way too temperamental to be a replacement for cigarettes. I need it to work when I need a cigarette, not five hours later and only for two minutes.

Sorry to call you out bud, but being the supplier I am, I have had THOUSANDS ... literally THOUSANDS of atomizers run through here. I have never seen a 5 pack of 901 atomizers be DOA. Its sounds like you are smoking off the factory prime, and give up after that. There were several members and suppliers trying to help you in another thread and even ask questions, but you made your statement, and never showed you face again. Consistency is key ... and it sounds like you haven't given "consistency" a fighting chance.

Originally Posted by 20adayman

The RN4082 - it worked for less than an hour then no vapour whatsoever even after the battery is fully recharged. When it did work it wasn't as good as the 901. Again way too temperamental.

Ever think it could be user error and not a problem with the device? Just a thought ....

Originally Posted by 20adayman

I'm detecting a lot of dishonesty on this forum (I suspect most of you are e-cig sellers) because I have been trawling this forum and I cannot find a single post mentioning how inconsistent and temperamental this technology actually is.

Dishonesty from both members and suppliers? First and foremost, members have nothing to lose. They can down pretty much anything and everything if they want to, so what black shroud are they hiding behind ... ? nothing ... As far as suppliers. I haven't seen a single "labeled" ECF supplier that has not been honest with issues, both with their own stock, and in the helpful posts of others. If they do get caught up with a dishonest answer, members are quick to point out flaws and the issue gets resolved, plain and simple ...

Originally Posted by 20adayman

Real cigarettes may kill you, but at least they work.

One thing you are right about .... Analogue cigs do work to kill you ...

Originally Posted by 20adayman

Conclusion: The e-cig is a truly great idea but the technology isn't quite there yet for this to be a true alternative to cigarettes. When I spend 25 pounds on a product it is not acceptable that it stops working after one hour, or one day.

This goes to show, you haven't given it a fighting chance. It took me 2 weeks before I mastered how to do things, and even today, I learn new things EVERY SINGLE DAY! That's what ECF is about ... Sharing your reviews, thoughts, technical issues, and even inventions.

Originally Posted by 20adayman

It says a lot that this product is only available online, if it was sold on the high street it would have to be a thousand times more durable or it would be withdrawn.

20aday ...

You can't smoke an ecig like you can an analogue cig. They are 2 completely different animals to tame ... From the lack of questions I have seen in your history, it seems like because you haven't mastered it yourself with zero guidance, that you automatically assume everyone is like you.
This isn't the case bud.

This may not be for you 20aday, but I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors ...

[e-pipeman]

[quote=20adayman;60214

I'm detecting a lot of dishonesty on this forum (I suspect most of you are e-cig sellers) because I have been trawling this forum and I cannot find a single post mentioning how inconsistent and temperamental this technology actually is.
Real cigarettes may kill you, but at least they work.
[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry that you've had difficult with your e-cigs, but there's no reason to go around accusing people of dishonesty. I am definitely not an e-cig seller ( the money flows from me to them, not the other way around). If you read the forum you would find numerous posts discussing they ways in which e-cigs can be both inconsistent and temperamental - and how to resolve these issues. There is a learning curve with these devices - if you can't be bothered to make the initial investment in time and research to discover how to use them effectively, then they're unlikely to work for you. The best way to have a bad experience with an e-cig is to be impatient with it. READ THE FORUM - time spent doing this will answer your concerns. When you say "Real cigarettes may kill you - but at least they work" - have you stopped to consider what you're actually saying? You're happy to be killed by cigarettes because they function well?

[20adayman]

Originally Posted by CaSHMeRe

Sorry to call you out bud, but being the supplier I am, I have had THOUSANDS ... literally THOUSANDS of atomizers run through here. I have never seen a 5 pack of 901 atomizers be DOA. Its sounds like you are smoking off the factory prime, and give up after that. There were several members and suppliers trying to help you in another thread and even ask questions, but you made your statement, and never showed you face again. Consistency is key ... and it sounds like you haven't given "consistency" a fighting chance.



Ever think it could be user error and not a problem with the device? Just a thought ....

Dishonesty from both members and suppliers? First and foremost, members have nothing to lose. They can down pretty much anything and everything if they want to, so what black shroud are they hiding behind ... ? nothing ... As far as suppliers. I haven't seen a single "labeled" ECF supplier that has not been honest with issues, both with their own stock, and in the helpful posts of others. If they do get caught up with a dishonest answer, members are quick to point out flaws and the issue gets resolved, plain and simple ...



One thing you are right about .... Analogue cigs do work to kill you ...



This goes to show, you haven't given it a fighting chance. It took me 2 weeks before I mastered how to do things, and even today, I learn new things EVERY SINGLE DAY! That's what ECF is about ... Sharing your reviews, thoughts, technical issues, and even inventions.



20aday ...

You can't smoke an ecig like you can an analogue cig. They are 2 completely different animals to tame ... From the lack of questions I have seen in your history, it seems like because you haven't mastered it yourself with zero guidance, that you automatically assume everyone is like you.
This isn't the case bud.

This may not be for you 20aday, but I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors ...

Not surprisingly you are a 'supplier' so your credibility is the only thing that is dubious. These things DO NOT WORK, simple as that. Let me explain what happened when I opened the packet of 5 brand new atomizers- I opened the little white box that contains the atomizers then I took one out and screwed it into a freshly charged battery (yes the light on the battery charger went from red to green) then I attached a brand new cartridge, the first few drags were fine, nice taste in fact, better than cigarettes to me, then after the first few drags guess what no vapour, so you tell me what exactly am I doing wrong? How is this thing not working my fault exactly. It worked the first few times I tried it so obviously it isn't down to my misuse (as much as you try to tell yourself otherwise) this same thing happened with all 5 atomizers. I'm not say they don't work at all, two of them still produce vapour but only when left alone for a few hours and even then they only work for a few minutes before dying again.
And you call this a product that works.
You will say any old **** to get people to hand over their money. If anyone is reading this who has yet to buy one, my advice is to wait until they are sold in mainstream retail outlets because by then they will have to be significantly beter than a faulty prototype - which is essentially what this product now is.

Never bother me again, you waste of space.

[PeteMcArthur]

Originally Posted by 20adayman

Not surprisingly you are a 'supplier' so your credibility is the only thing that is dubious. These things DO NOT WORK, simple as that. Let me explain what happened when I opened the packet of 5 brand new atomizers- I opened the little white box that contains the atomizers then I took one out and screwed it into a freshly charged battery (yes the light on the battery charger went from red to green) then I attached a brand new cartridge, the first few drags were fine, nice taste in fact, better than cigarettes to me, then after the first few drags guess what no vapour, so you tell me what exactly am I doing wrong? How is this thing not working my fault exactly. It worked the first few times I tried it so obviously it isn't down to my misuse (as much as you try to tell yourself otherwise) this same thing happened with all 5 atomizers. I'm not say they don't work at all, two of them still produce vapour but only when left alone for a few hours and even then they only work for a few minutes before dying again.
And you call this a product that works.
You will say any old **** to get people to hand over their money. If anyone is reading this who has yet to buy one, my advice is to wait until they are sold in mainstream retail outlets because by then they will have to be significantly beter than a faulty prototype - which is essentially what this product now is.

Never bother me again, you waste of space.

OK you don't like e-cigs and are not prepared to take advice, but stop bad mouthing people on this forum. Do you really think everybody here is a supplier?

Grow up

[e-pipeman]

Originally Posted by 20adayman

Not surprisingly you are a 'supplier' so your credibility is the only thing that is dubious. These things DO NOT WORK, simple as that. Let me explain what happened when I opened the packet of 5 brand new atomizers- I opened the little white box that contains the atomizers then I took one out and screwed it into a freshly charged battery (yes the light on the battery charger went from red to green) then I attached a brand new cartridge, the first few drags were fine, nice taste in fact, better than cigarettes to me, then after the first few drags guess what no vapour, so you tell me what exactly am I doing wrong? How is this thing not working my fault exactly. It worked the first few times I tried it so obviously it isn't down to my misuse (as much as you try to tell yourself otherwise) this same thing happened with all 5 atomizers. I'm not say they don't work at all, two of them still produce vapour but only when left alone for a few hours and even then they only work for a few minutes before dying again.
And you call this a product that works.
You will say any old **** to get people to hand over their money. If anyone is reading this who has yet to buy one, my advice is to wait until they are sold in mainstream retail outlets because by then they will have to be significantly beter than a faulty prototype - which is essentially what this product now is.

Never bother me again, you waste of space.

A pack of 5 atomizers? That's odd. Cartridges usually come in packs of 5. You may be confused.

Vapour dropping off when you've had a few drags? If you'd bothered to read the forum you would realise that the addition of a drop of glycerine would have you billowing out vapour like a fog machine. But you didn't bother to read the forum, did you?

I've not smoked tobacco now for over 6 weeks as a direct result of using e-cigs. They work well for me and for many others on this forum who have taken the time to learn how to use them.

It might be advisable if, in future posts, you dropped the abuse. This is a friendly and informative forum, and it would be nice to keep it that way.

[bribri]

Do you guys need a group hug? Sorry not me. Look Cash no need to get so defensive. He IS right these things are tempermental and a bitch to use. They flake out, overheat, wear out, burn out, and just plain quit on you all the time. But what Cash is saying is you have to earn this one its so good. I mean you really do get your cake and eat it to if you learn how to master the ecig. You get to smoke, get your buzz on, and live. I think maybe you bought low end stuff 20aday? Because the lowest end product I ever bought was a NJOY and that is not considered a low end ecig, and my experience has been similar to yours in the quality control of these things, but I know that I will most likely be a ecig smoker till the day I die. These things are being tweaked every single day by the factory owners because we are making these demands. You have to give it another shot. P.S. I can tell you are not doing this right, why did you go and buy the rn4082 as a new smoker?

[jules]

I've been e-smoking now for 4 1/2 weeks and am still using my first e-cig dse901.
If I had not read this forum I am sure that by now I too would be saying how useless the e-cig is.You are probably smoking (vaping) the cartridge dry.Buy some juice to top up the carts and you'll soon enjoy the e-cig more than analogue cigs.
Any newcomers to e-cigs please read the info on this site to help you get the best out of e-smoking.
Ps I am not a supplier,just a very happy customer who has not smoked tobacco for 4 1/2 weeks after smoking it for 34 years.
julie

[KentSP]

Did not read everything here so could be wrong but sounds to me like you either got dud batteries or you not charging them properly. Charge them 4 to 8 hours and forget about the green light it lies.

[scrubadub]

Originally Posted by 20adayman

I have been trawling this forum and I cannot find a single post mentioning how inconsistent and temperamental this technology actually is.

You really must have been looking in the wrong places mate. Try doing a search for Trog's posts