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Old 03-19-2009, 02:06 AM   #11
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Maybe the fine folks at VaporGuys REALLY REALLY REALLY like the atomizers.
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:31 AM   #12
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Oh man... that was so wrong
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Aaah, okay!

I was wondering what it was! Man, you should hear this atomizer... it cooks!

Well, at least there's pictures and this thread now, for anyone else that ever wonders what that stuff is.

Haha. I can hear mine cook quite distinctly.. They operate well, but the material still concerns me somewhat..

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Hey Cekte, after the atomizer dies, is this stuff still intact? Does it stay "flexible" and still clear looking?
Hey skull, yep, it seems to hang around. I have several of these specific atomizers for a few different units, and only one has gone bad. It was fairly early in its life, but the material was still intact, and clear/white. I have not had a chance to thoroughly vape one into submission, to see the outcome yet. Believe me, I have been trying however
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I got the 510 from VG, and it worked great. My first ecig, I loved it (still do). I got up on my 15th day of vaping and nothing, batteries definitely good. I did notice that the atomizer draws lots of air now, like a straw. I thought maybe "The Blob" in the above pics had burned out.
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Old 03-19-2009, 05:20 AM   #15
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Well, I typed this out previously and it glitched posting. Here goes attempt #2...

I have been experimenting for a few days now, on these atomizers wicking properties, and have taken a few pictures.

In my experience with this unit, the atomizer seems to perform just as well with the material removed from under the atomizer bridge. I have not had any negative experience with the inner wick material to date, but am still wary of its placement and true purpose.

The material is much more fibrous upon a closer second look. It seems to possibly be some of the same material the coil is wrapped around. It is definite, that this material is designed to aide in the wicking process. However in my testing removing it did not hinder the performance at all, and seemed if anything to perhaps produce the same results, or better.

The wicking action from the cart material to the bridge, and from the bridge to the coil, seems very minimally effected by these strands.

My apologies of the quality of photographs. It is poor lighting and execution, but still conveys the point..

below, a shot of the 306 wicking bridge construction, before


again, a before picture, from opposite angle


a shot of the atomizer next to the removed inner wicking material


close up of the removed fiber from under the bridge. Note: this material does not melt, or 'burn' under direct flame.


here you can see the fiber removed, the bridge and exposed coil in the foreground. This is very similar construction to a m40x series atomizer with the excess wicking removed.


Will keep this test updated..
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I was a little confused as the first photos seemed to show a goo-type substance and the later pics showed fibers. Going with the fibers, I think you are having in part this conversation:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-atomizer.html
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LOL, good one.
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I bet it's in there to insulate the bridge from the heat of the coil... maybe it would wick better when it's hot?
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I was a little confused as the first photos seemed to show a goo-type substance and the later pics showed fibers. Going with the fibers, I think you are having in part this conversation:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-atomizer.html
I understand that the manufacturers put that stuff in for a reason... so I'm not sure I want to mess with it... However, my "wicking" is jelly-like with fibers within it. It was soft and pliable, even when it was dry.

From what I understand these atomizers from JOYE are pretty durable. Kurt from VaporGuys.com said that he's not getting many reports of premature death or failure. So this gel wicking form JOYE might be some new technology of theirs. I'd think that these manufacturers (the better ones anyway) would be trying to improve their technology and methods. Alot of people think that the Chinese are copycats but they are probably one of the most innovative cultures of modern times.

However, I'm very interested in how usage will affect this stuff over time and I'll be sure to take pictures of the atomizer, to showcase any changes. Overall, I'm not concerned about safety and think perhaps the purpose of the gel-like substance is to act as a cohesive substance for the fibers of the wick. Well, I'm not quite sure that makes sense, but it did before I typed it out.
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