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IntoxiNation · 05-22-2009, 01:02 PM

They only have two videos up so far, but they have a couple more marked as "coming soon":

National Journal Online - Could The FDA Burn Tobacco?

scintar · 05-22-2009, 02:42 PM

Thanks for the link.

TropicalBob · 05-22-2009, 04:11 PM

Those are truly an excellent overview of what we face. Note that e-cigs are addressed in the last segment on Public Heatlh.

LaceyUnderall · 05-22-2009, 04:50 PM

Everyone should watch all four videos. They are very well done and offer a great representation of the entire picture from a tobacco perspective (of course not the pharmaceutical perspective).

ShadowDemon420 · 05-22-2009, 05:01 PM

I watched the public heath one I do not have time to watch the others right now but will later tonight in like 13 hours because I have to work all day and night doing sound yeee haw I brought my charger on long days like this.. Can someone summerize all the videos?

LaceyUnderall · 05-22-2009, 05:04 PM

One thing I did note in video three I believe: Did the guy from ALA DC say that there was Urine in tobacco cigarettes?

I have seen talk on blogs regarding a possible flavoring for cigarettes coming from pig urine, but I had never heard of urine being an ingredient!

ShadowDemon420 · 05-22-2009, 05:07 PM

I did hear that in that video too thats crazy if it is really true... Just makes me want to vape even more despite the government or the Children want whaaa if the children are going to smoke they will no matter the ads no matter anything...Get over it...

Wally · 05-22-2009, 05:39 PM

These were very informative. I will note something that I've posted elsewhere a few times. In the short clip of Margaret Hamburg she said, (and I am nearly quoting) 'It's time to reduce smoking and reduce harm.' If we have someone at the head of the FDA who understands harm reduction (as opposed to abstinence) and can implement it, we will find a paradigm shift that is supportive of e-cigs, snus, etc. I know that Hamburg understands harm reduction. I don't know to what extent the Tobacco bill might constrain her efforts by simply making the harm reduction approaches illegal.

Steampunk · 05-22-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaceyUnderall

One thing I did note in video three I believe: Did the guy from ALA DC say that there was Urine in tobacco cigarettes?

I have seen talk on blogs regarding a possible flavoring for cigarettes coming from pig urine, but I had never heard of urine being an ingredient!

It wouldn't surprise me. I can see BT execs on the golf course laughing and knee slapping about how they could put anything in cigarettes and people would still smoke 'em. There is probably pig vomit in cigs too.

I'm sure it's been said many times but if it were really about the kids, they would do what Canada does with beer and The Beer Store. They would make tobacco products ONLY AVAILABLE AT TOBACCO OUTLETS and there would be cameras and security to high heavens and it would require at least two forms of identification with proof of age. At this point, I think anyone would be fine with that.

nitewriter · 05-22-2009, 05:58 PM

I watched all 4 videos. While they are very informative on everything going on, it just makes me feel so angry and helpless against their billion$ in lobbying power.

Do we have a snowballs chance in he** of our devices surviving?

...Yes, he said urine.

05-22-2009, 01:02 PM	#1
IntoxiNation Full Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hamilton, Ohio Posts: 69	Video Reports On Tobacco Legislation They only have two videos up so far, but they have a couple more marked as "coming soon": National Journal Online - Could The FDA Burn Tobacco?

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scintar Super Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pinellas Park FL Posts: 362	Thanks for the link. __________________

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LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	Everyone should watch all four videos. They are very well done and offer a great representation of the entire picture from a tobacco perspective (of course not the pharmaceutical perspective). __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer

05-22-2009, 05:04 PM	#6
LaceyUnderall USA Supplier Forum Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: US and Canada Posts: 2,707	One thing I did note in video three I believe: Did the guy from ALA DC say that there was Urine in tobacco cigarettes? I have seen talk on blogs regarding a possible flavoring for cigarettes coming from pig urine, but I had never heard of urine being an ingredient! __________________ INSTEAD Electronic Cigarettes and Blog \| I Support the Electronic Cigarette Association \| Right To Vape - A Consumer Organization Defending Your Right To Use a Personal Vaporizer

05-22-2009, 05:58 PM	#10
nitewriter ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee Posts: 1,261	I watched all 4 videos. While they are very informative on everything going on, it just makes me feel so angry and helpless against their billion$ in lobbying power. Do we have a snowballs chance in he** of our devices surviving? ...Yes, he said urine. __________________ Quote: "What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day."—Dr Ley former Commissioner of the FDA.

05-22-2009, 04:11 PM	#3
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Those are truly an excellent overview of what we face. Note that e-cigs are addressed in the last segment on Public Heatlh.

05-22-2009, 05:01 PM	#5
ShadowDemon420 Full Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 133	I watched the public heath one I do not have time to watch the others right now but will later tonight in like 13 hours because I have to work all day and night doing sound yeee haw I brought my charger on long days like this.. Can someone summerize all the videos?

05-22-2009, 05:07 PM	#7
ShadowDemon420 Full Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 133	I did hear that in that video too thats crazy if it is really true... Just makes me want to vape even more despite the government or the Children want whaaa if the children are going to smoke they will no matter the ads no matter anything...Get over it...

05-22-2009, 05:39 PM	#8
Wally Full Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 93	These were very informative. I will note something that I've posted elsewhere a few times. In the short clip of Margaret Hamburg she said, (and I am nearly quoting) 'It's time to reduce smoking and reduce harm.' If we have someone at the head of the FDA who understands harm reduction (as opposed to abstinence) and can implement it, we will find a paradigm shift that is supportive of e-cigs, snus, etc. I know that Hamburg understands harm reduction. I don't know to what extent the Tobacco bill might constrain her efforts by simply making the harm reduction approaches illegal.

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