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Old 11-21-2009, 04:32 PM   #3161
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Here is the link: ACS :: Guide to Quitting Smoking.

It's about halfway down the page, under "Other Methods of Quitting", "Other Nicotine and Tobacco Product not Approved or Reviewed by the FDA".

They are critical of it and they mention the FDA test results, but at least they did include the e-cig under "other methods of quitting".

Nice find Jerry---


"Nicotine inhalers: Inhalers are available only by prescription. The nicotine inhaler is a thin plastic tube with a nicotine cartridge inside. When you take a puff from the inhaler, the cartridge puts out a nicotine vapor. Unlike other inhalers, which deliver most of the medicine to the lungs, the nicotine inhaler delivers most of the nicotine vapor to the mouth. Nicotine inhalers are the FDA-approved nicotine replacement method that is most like smoking a cigarette, which some smokers find helpful.
The recommended dose is between 6 and 16 cartridges a day, for up to 6 months.
The most common side effects, especially when first using the inhaler, include:
  • coughing
  • throat irritation
  • upset stomach
At this time, inhalers are the most expensive forms of NRT available. They are not the same as electronic cigarettes, which have not been proven in clinical trials to help with quitting and are not approved by the FDA. (See section, "Other nicotine and tobacco products not reviewed or approved by the FDA.")"



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Old 11-21-2009, 05:10 PM   #3162
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Nice find Jerry---


"Nicotine inhalers: Inhalers are available only by prescription. The nicotine inhaler is a thin plastic tube with a nicotine cartridge inside. When you take a puff from the inhaler, the cartridge puts out a nicotine vapor. Unlike other inhalers, which deliver most of the medicine to the lungs, the nicotine inhaler delivers most of the nicotine vapor to the mouth. Nicotine inhalers are the FDA-approved nicotine replacement method that is most like smoking a cigarette, which some smokers find helpful.
The recommended dose is between 6 and 16 cartridges a day, for up to 6 months.
The most common side effects, especially when first using the inhaler, include:
  • coughing
  • throat irritation
  • upset stomach
At this time, inhalers are the most expensive forms of NRT available. They are not the same as electronic cigarettes, which have not been proven in clinical trials to help with quitting and are not approved by the FDA. (See section, "Other nicotine and tobacco products not reviewed or approved by the FDA.")"



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There is more info about the e-cig, further down the page, under "Other nicotine and tobacco products not reviewed or approved by the FDA".
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:12 PM   #3163
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Nice find Jerry---


"Nicotine inhalers: Inhalers are available only by prescription. The nicotine inhaler is a thin plastic tube with a nicotine cartridge inside. When you take a puff from the inhaler, the cartridge puts out a nicotine vapor. Unlike other inhalers, which deliver most of the medicine to the lungs, the nicotine inhaler delivers most of the nicotine vapor to the mouth. Nicotine inhalers are the FDA-approved nicotine replacement method that is most like smoking a cigarette, which some smokers find helpful.
The recommended dose is between 6 and 16 cartridges a day, for up to 6 months.
The most common side effects, especially when first using the inhaler, include:
  • coughing
  • throat irritation
  • upset stomach
At this time, inhalers are the most expensive forms of NRT available. They are not the same as electronic cigarettes, which have not been proven in clinical trials to help with quitting and are not approved by the FDA. (See section, "Other nicotine and tobacco products not reviewed or approved by the FDA.")"



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I am still lost, are we still smokers using a different means or are we quitters continuing to placate our nicotine addiction? One would put us more towards cigarettes the other more towards drug users.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:24 PM   #3164
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some quit all together but most continue vaping. I am no longer smoking at all. I am continuing to get my nicotine in a different manner that is more pleasant to me and everyone around me. I have been hooked on cigarettes for almost 20 years. Now I'm free of them. To me,... Nicotine is a drug, just like a cigarette is a drug, and caffeine. I'm sure they could sell a step down kit and call it a Smoking Cessation device,... but most would just keep buying step one every month.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:58 PM   #3165
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The ACS' section on electronic cigarettes appears to be sticking with the FDA's early findings, however the fact that they've published it at all is encouraging. Perhaps encouraged by ASK UK's stance on the issue? Isn't the ACS one of ASH US' supporters?

None the less, I'm liking it.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:37 PM   #3166
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The ACS' section on electronic cigarettes appears to be sticking with the FDA's early findings, however the fact that they've published it at all is encouraging. Perhaps encouraged by ASK UK's stance on the issue? Isn't the ACS one of ASH US' supporters?

None the less, I'm liking it.
It wouldn't surprise me at all, if once they discover that we found it, they delete it from that page. Read it while you can!

But, I am a cynic.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:12 PM   #3167
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It is important to note that the American Cancer Society's webpage (and its current policy) on smoking cessation only recommends FDA approved NRT and other Rx products.
ACS :: Guide to Quitting Smoking

Much of the ACS information about smoking cessation is inaccurate or misleading. This is partly because ACS has received tens of millions of dollars (which it hasn't disclosed as a conflict of interest) from GlaxoSmithKline during the past decade to exclusively endorse GSK's Nicoderm, Nicorette, and Commit products (that contained the ACS name and logo endorsing the products until about a year ago when the contract expired).

As one who organized and administered about 200 smoking cessation clinics for the ACS from 1987-1989 (back when the ACS truthfully acknowledged that cold-turkey was/is by far the most effective way of quitting), I'm appalled that the ACS has sold out to Big Pharma by opposing or criticizing all other methods of quitting.

The US PHS tobacco treatment guidelines (most of whose authors have also received lots of money from drug companies to promote NRT and Rx products for quitting) also only recommends NRT and other Rx products for quitting (and don't even mention cold turkey in its 276 pages).
http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/tobacc...acco_use08.pdf
Basically, Big Pharma has lobbied and/or purchased exclusive endorsements for its products (as the only recommended ways to quit smoking) from most large health organizations and all national and state government health agencies.

That's the reality we're dealing with.
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:33 PM   #3168
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Besides Smokefree Pennsylvania, are there any uncorrupted groups/organizations/agencies, left in this country ?

It's very disheartening.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:21 PM   #3169
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That's the reality we're dealing with.
I guess that is one of the downsides of capitalism?

But the government is supposed to remain above the system.
Not become a part of it.

I guess that is one of the downsides of a republic as opposed to being a democracy?
Not that I think we'd be better off as a true democracy either.

But all of that is for another day, and time, and thread.
Sorry for mini-rant.
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Check this out:

E Cigarette Ban By FDA May Make Them A Real Danger To Smokers--hmmm....
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