Fox News Saftey Concerns for E-Cigs

[JebGipson]

Fox news is biast, they are one of several news agencies that use their program to support their own views.

[mxpowers]

Just to add why Fox New Sucks


Fox News War on Obama Video

[Epheon]

Wow!

I mean just Wow! It really amazes me how the otherwise intelligent folks on this forum who are concerned about the future of e-cigs can degrade this discussion down to bashing the news network that segment aired on for ideological reasons that have NOTHING to do with e-cigs.

Seriously folks this thread should be about debunking the misrepresentation of e-cigs on the media. Its no place ideological slant from eith side of the isle. If news bashing is all you want to accomplish take it the DNC or RNC websites forums.

This is a place for e-smokers as a community not for a specific political party or ideological stance.

J-

[Applejackson]

Originally Posted by Epheon

Wow!

I mean just Wow! It really amazes me how the otherwise intelligent folks on this forum who are concerned about the future of e-cigs can degrade this discussion down to bashing the news network that segment aired on for ideological reasons that have NOTHING to do with e-cigs.

Seriously folks this thread should be about debunking the misrepresentation of e-cigs on the media. Its no place ideological slant from eith side of the isle. If news bashing is all you want to accomplish take it the DNC or RNC websites forums.

This is a place for e-smokers as a community not for a specific political party or ideological stance.

J-

So you're saying you'd prefer yet another "What e-cig should I buy?" thread instead? This is a forum.

fo·rum (fôr'əm, fōr'-)
n. pl. fo·rums also fo·ra (fôr'ə, fōr'ə)

1.
a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
2.
A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.
3. A court of law; a tribunal.


[Middle English, from Latin; see dhwer- in Indo-European roots.]

Bashing Fox News (or any other network news program) should be a part of any discussion when they have involved themselves in the issue.

[PlanetScribbles]

Originally Posted by Applejackson

Bashing Fox News (or any other network news program) should be a part of any discussion when they have involved themselves in the issue.

In fact, I would say that such discussion goes directly to the whole reasoning behind why right-wing sympathisers such as Fox would involve themselves in the issue. It is the right that have their ideology firmly rooted in promoting big business interests. It doesn't get bigger than big tobacco and big pharma.
The only stories that Rupert Murdoch gives a damn about are the ones that give his empire the biggest boost in profits.
Why do you think that we seem to see ex VP Cheney criticising the current administration on a weekly basis, even when it is now none of his sodding business. No doubt it is in his interests to do so
The neo-cons got their butts kicked last Nov, now they are looking for payback.

[circeseye]

you guys missed one big thing he said. he said that we heat up nicotine that turns into vapor. thats not true we heat up PG that has a small amount on nicotine that turns into vapor

[Epheon]

Originally Posted by Applejackson

Bashing Fox News (or any other network news program) should be a part of any discussion when they have involved themselves in the issue.

Re-read those posts bashing Fox and tell me again how many are bashing that report on e-cigs and how many were just bashing Fox due to their own personal bias.

Bash Fox for shoddy reporting on e-cigs fine. Thats within the issue of this thread and belongs here.

Bash Fox because you are on the Obama love train or are simply touting the party line for the Dems, not needed. That has no bearing on the dicussion of e-cigs and doesnt belong in this thread or this sub-forum. The subject of this thread is the report by Fox News but not weather they are partisan to one political party of another.

J-

[Dredbull]

I would be willing to do my challenge if fox footed the bill and reported correctly on it.

[mxpowers]

Originally Posted by circeseye

you guys missed one big thing he said. he said that we heat up nicotine that turns into vapor. thats not true we heat up PG that has a small amount on nicotine that turns into vapor

I'm glad you pointed that out. I missed that completely.




And Epheon... Did you not see the deffention of the work Forum? Here it is again:


fo·rum (fôr'əm, fōr'-)
n. pl. fo·rums also fo·ra (fôr'ə, fōr'ə)

1.
a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.
b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.
2.
A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.
3. A court of law; a tribunal.



Now I want to take this part of the deffention out and highlight something:

b. A public meeting place for open discussion.

Now and open discussion means anything goes regardless of what the original subject was.

It's exactly what were doing now





Death to FOX NEWS!!!!

[TaketheRedPill]

Originally Posted by Scottbee

No.... actually that is brilliant. This is in front of a judge. At this point, public opinion or perception shouldn't be relevant (and it isn't). And any good lawyer will tell you that when your position is being evaluated in court, you stay the hell away from the press.

If that were true, PR lawyers like Gloria Allred would be unemployed.

It's not like the segment was O'Reilly or Glenn Beck, it was a morning 'fluff' show with a 3 minute segment limit, viewed literally by millions of disposable-income adults getting ready for work.

SE put out a press release just recently that was captioned here on the forum under "sales of ecigs increase before Christmas' or something along those lines - why put out a 'position' press release, if they are being 'evaluated' in court, but not appear on a Fox segment, where it was obvious the hosts were exceptionally curious about the product? To the point the good doctor was actually taking both sides of the issue? What's the difference between a press release picked up by Reuters, and appearing live for 3 minutes, sidestepping sensitive questions while explaining the product? None that I see. What am I missing?