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Vocalek · 10-30-2009, 05:10 PM

Frankie1, I see your comment. I am with Nestrain. This is the comment I left:

So, this vaccine will block nicotine's "rewarding effects". Does that include the rewarding effect of maintaining normal mood and cognitive funciton? Does that also include the rewarding effect of preventing the build-up of alpha-synoclean proteins in the brain in that cause Lewy Body Dementia? This vaccine sounds like a very dangerous approach. The 40% of smokers who are using nicotine to self-medicate could end up with totally untreatable depression, anxiety, and cognitive deficits.

PhiHalcyon · 10-30-2009, 05:25 PM

Kin,

Yeah, I've learned a lot more about nicotine since then. Reducing the nicotine in cigarettes will just make those who smoke them smoke more of them. This is probably why PM was willing to agree to the regulation of nicotine-yields ... as long as requiring a nicotine-yield of zero was prohibited. It would clearly make more sense to ban cigarettes and approve the ecig - whether a nicotine-reduction scheme were to be later intended or not.

Should the long-term use of the ecig prove to not have any negative health consequences, then I would also agree that nicotine-yields be no more regulated than what is necessary to prevent whatever tragic or deadly consequences there may be associated with excessive nicotine consumption. Liberty is great, but so is responsibility.

SKing · 11-02-2009, 08:21 PM

I know, isn't this hilarious. They expect the NicVAX to be a $2Billion industry. Obviously it is clear which industry is in bed with the other. Somehow, big pharm needs to make money from non-smokers too!

MadeyeTony · 11-02-2009, 10:23 PM

Anybody remember this scene from The Fifth Element? Here is the future of smoking if the FDA has their way.

YouTube - Future Cigarettes

DC2 · 11-02-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Plastic surgery to implant fake smiles on our faces once they've sucked all the fun out of our lives???

Dude, do you know anywhere that is doing this?
I need a good stock investment.

dalton3699 · 11-03-2009, 03:11 AM

i love it drugs you take to stop taking drugs............

hey wait minute.................????...............

TaketheRedPill · 11-06-2009, 04:58 AM

Volkow said drumming up drug company interest in vaccines for illicit drugs is a harder sell because of liability concerns, and the fact that drug abusers are stigmatized.

"Unfortunately, when it comes to treatments for drug addiction ... most of the investment goes to the government," she said.

and smokers aren't stigmatized? and pose no liability threat? why? because they have to ask for the vaccine??? hmmmmm.....fuzzy logic

TTRP

Zaija · 11-07-2009, 12:41 AM

Seems to be very similar to how Chantix works.

On the other hand I Love how it begins: 'Hooked on cocaine or cigarettes?' lol

Very interesting what they're coming up with nowadays..

rothenbj · 11-07-2009, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalton3699

i love it drugs you take to stop taking drugs............

hey wait minute.................????...............

You have to love it. I can see it now. 100,000K ex-smokers commit suicide so the FDA meets to insure that MakeAMint Pharmaceuticals and all the other BP copycat vaccine makers put a BlackBox warning on their packaging.

At the same time the die hard analog smokers are hit with another tax increase bringing the current price of a pack of cigarettes to $150.

10-30-2009, 05:10 PM	#11
Vocalek Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 607	Frankie1, I see your comment. I am with Nestrain. This is the comment I left: So, this vaccine will block nicotine's "rewarding effects". Does that include the rewarding effect of maintaining normal mood and cognitive funciton? Does that also include the rewarding effect of preventing the build-up of alpha-synoclean proteins in the brain in that cause Lewy Body Dementia? This vaccine sounds like a very dangerous approach. The 40% of smokers who are using nicotine to self-medicate could end up with totally untreatable depression, anxiety, and cognitive deficits. __________________

11-02-2009, 08:21 PM	#13
SKing Supplier pending approval Join Date: May 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 15	I know, isn't this hilarious. They expect the NicVAX to be a $2Billion industry. Obviously it is clear which industry is in bed with the other. Somehow, big pharm needs to make money from non-smokers too! __________________ E Cigarette and Electronic Cigarette Waging the PR war on Electronic cigarettes

11-06-2009, 04:58 AM	#17
TaketheRedPill Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern California Posts: 141	Volkow said drumming up drug company interest in vaccines for illicit drugs is a harder sell because of liability concerns, and the fact that drug abusers are stigmatized. "Unfortunately, when it comes to treatments for drug addiction ... most of the investment goes to the government," she said. and smokers aren't stigmatized? and pose no liability threat? why? because they have to ask for the vaccine??? hmmmmm.....fuzzy logic TTRP __________________ It's your life. Keep it simple. Choose wisely. TaketheRedPill

11-07-2009, 12:41 AM	#18
Zaija Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: London, Kentucky Posts: 59	Seems to be very similar to how Chantix works. On the other hand I Love how it begins: 'Hooked on cocaine or cigarettes?' lol Very interesting what they're coming up with nowadays.. __________________ Last edited by Zaija; 11-07-2009 at 12:45 AM.

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10-30-2009, 05:25 PM	#12
PhiHalcyon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 183	Kin, Yeah, I've learned a lot more about nicotine since then. Reducing the nicotine in cigarettes will just make those who smoke them smoke more of them. This is probably why PM was willing to agree to the regulation of nicotine-yields ... as long as requiring a nicotine-yield of zero was prohibited. It would clearly make more sense to ban cigarettes and approve the ecig - whether a nicotine-reduction scheme were to be later intended or not. Should the long-term use of the ecig prove to not have any negative health consequences, then I would also agree that nicotine-yields be no more regulated than what is necessary to prevent whatever tragic or deadly consequences there may be associated with excessive nicotine consumption. Liberty is great, but so is responsibility.

11-03-2009, 03:11 AM	#16
dalton3699 Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 20	i love it drugs you take to stop taking drugs............ hey wait minute.................????...............