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nojoyet · 10-30-2009, 02:52 PM

I don't want to believe this. Here's the link
http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/backs+vaccines+drug+nicotine+addiction/2127814/story.html

doots · 10-30-2009, 02:59 PM

lol. yet e cigs might be dangerous to users.. who among us will be the first to get the vac shot to test their findings???

TropicalBob · 10-30-2009, 03:25 PM

Don't you wish someone would shovel $10 million to a study of a practice that delivers non-harmful nicotine levels to those who want it -- us -- without delivering other dangerous chemicals at the same time?

PhiHalcyon · 10-30-2009, 03:43 PM

Well, it is already obvious that the FDA intends to introduce a nicotine-yield limit at some point; and then gradually lower that limit over time. I can remember asking myself over ten years ago - at a time when I was trying to quit - why this nicotine control and reduction scheme was not already being done.

And, yes, an ecig-like nicotine delivery product put under the same long-term nicotine-reduction scheme is precisely what is needed in order achieve quick and tremendous gains in human harm-reduction right from the beginning.

frankie1 · 10-30-2009, 03:47 PM

I have told my doc for years that if the medical community really wanted people to quit, they would come up with something that I could put in my mouth, suck on, get my nic and I would quit smoking! LOL They didn't, but the Chinese did!

frankie1 · 10-30-2009, 03:52 PM

Well here is my comment....let's see if they post it!

While we are waiting on this miracle vaccine, could we just use a bit of common sense as applied to harm reduction? Take a look at personal vaporizers. The addict gets their nicotine fix without the harmful additives of tobacco smoke. Then step down the nicotine and the addiction is nothing more than a habit, harmful to none. Might save a few million lives while trying to come up with a better solution.

frankie1 · 10-30-2009, 03:53 PM

HA ha HA: Maybe not...seems there was a problem posting my comment and I should try again later!

Nestran · 10-30-2009, 04:07 PM

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The vaccine is meant to stimulate the immune system to make antibodies against nicotine, blocking its rewarding effects and helping to prevent relapse in smokers trying to quit."

So the way I see it. the vaccine will not allow Nicotine to do what it does. you would be in withdrawal with no way out. Hmm, not something I want to experience.

Nestran

Our House · 10-30-2009, 04:55 PM

More freedom reduction...made FOR smokers BY non-smokers.

"We just want to HELP you! You know, for your own protection." I hate when people do things "for your protection" by the way. As if it's not for THEIR benefit. Right.

Do people ever consider that others might actually want nicotine...or coffee...or to gamble...or shop. Sometimes we enjoy things that FEEL GOOD. Sigh.

What's next, caffeine vaccines? Fatty food vaccinations? Video game addiction vaccinations? Plastic surgery to implant fake smiles on our faces once they've sucked all the fun out of our lives???

kinabaloo · 10-30-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhiHalcyon

Well, it is already obvious that the FDA intends to introduce a nicotine-yield limit at some point; and then gradually lower that limit over time. I can remember asking myself over ten years ago - at a time when I was trying to quit - why this nicotine control and reduction scheme was not already being done.

And, yes, an ecig-like nicotine delivery product put under the same long-term nicotine-reduction scheme is precisely what is needed in order achieve quick and tremendous gains in human harm-reduction right from the beginning.

We've been down that road before with 'lights'. If want people to smoke less tar and toxins, make the things stronger not weaker.

Since nicotine is not harmful, no need for any scheme for reducing its use. I completely disagree with that notion. In fact, it is outrageous!

10-30-2009, 02:52 PM	#1
nojoyet Full Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Canada, near Vancouver Posts: 87	...vaccines for drug, nicotine adiction I don't want to believe this. Here's the link http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/backs+vaccines+drug+nicotine+addiction/2127814/story.html

10-30-2009, 03:47 PM	#5
frankie1 Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 419	I have told my doc for years that if the medical community really wanted people to quit, they would come up with something that I could put in my mouth, suck on, get my nic and I would quit smoking! LOL They didn't, but the Chinese did! __________________

10-30-2009, 03:52 PM	#6
frankie1 Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 419	Well here is my comment....let's see if they post it! While we are waiting on this miracle vaccine, could we just use a bit of common sense as applied to harm reduction? Take a look at personal vaporizers. The addict gets their nicotine fix without the harmful additives of tobacco smoke. Then step down the nicotine and the addiction is nothing more than a habit, harmful to none. Might save a few million lives while trying to come up with a better solution. __________________

10-30-2009, 03:53 PM	#7
frankie1 Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 419	HA ha HA: Maybe not...seems there was a problem posting my comment and I should try again later! __________________

10-30-2009, 04:55 PM	#9
Our House Full Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 120	More freedom reduction...made FOR smokers BY non-smokers. "We just want to HELP you! You know, for your own protection." I hate when people do things "for your protection" by the way. As if it's not for THEIR benefit. Right. Do people ever consider that others might actually want nicotine...or coffee...or to gamble...or shop. Sometimes we enjoy things that FEEL GOOD. Sigh. What's next, caffeine vaccines? Fatty food vaccinations? Video game addiction vaccinations? Plastic surgery to implant fake smiles on our faces once they've sucked all the fun out of our lives??? __________________

10-30-2009, 02:59 PM	#2
doots Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Near Austin, Texas Posts: 1,119	lol. yet e cigs might be dangerous to users.. who among us will be the first to get the vac shot to test their findings???

10-30-2009, 03:25 PM	#3
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Don't you wish someone would shovel $10 million to a study of a practice that delivers non-harmful nicotine levels to those who want it -- us -- without delivering other dangerous chemicals at the same time?

10-30-2009, 03:43 PM	#4
PhiHalcyon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 183	Well, it is already obvious that the FDA intends to introduce a nicotine-yield limit at some point; and then gradually lower that limit over time. I can remember asking myself over ten years ago - at a time when I was trying to quit - why this nicotine control and reduction scheme was not already being done. And, yes, an ecig-like nicotine delivery product put under the same long-term nicotine-reduction scheme is precisely what is needed in order achieve quick and tremendous gains in human harm-reduction right from the beginning.

10-30-2009, 04:07 PM	#8
Nestran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 241	" The vaccine is meant to stimulate the immune system to make antibodies against nicotine, blocking its rewarding effects and helping to prevent relapse in smokers trying to quit." So the way I see it. the vaccine will not allow Nicotine to do what it does. you would be in withdrawal with no way out. Hmm, not something I want to experience. Nestran

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