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Chuffer · 02-12-2009, 07:56 AM

It's interesting that the article states that an inhalation of vapor delivers only about a third of the nicotine that an inhalation of smoke does. That jibes with my experience. I smoke ultralight cigarettes, and so initially vaped with 6mg strength eliquid. But I find that to attempt to truly reproduce the satisfaction of an analog, I need to use 18 mg or 20 mg strength juice, or, consistent with the article, about three times the strength of the analog.

LaceyUnderall · 02-12-2009, 01:53 PM

Great article...

"All pointers so far show the device is safe," Laugesen claims. "Whether it will be a successful smoking cessation device in the future depends on whether governments wrap it in cotton-wool regulations or allow smokers to buy it with a modicum of reasonable safety checks."

If we can get more and more doctors/researchers to feel that the tobacco harm reduction route is a good way to go... hopefully the regulators will listen.

e-pipeman · 02-12-2009, 02:25 PM

This is an excellent article. The comments to it also make good reading.

Drag on the Magic Puff · 02-12-2009, 02:52 PM

I came across this article myself this morning and added to the comments on the NS website.

It's nice to see a reasonably well-balanced and well written article at last!

K.P. · 02-13-2009, 12:20 AM

Being a UK resident, I was pleased as punch to read Peter Hajek speaking so sensibly about these devices.

I found his contact details instantly with teh Google. I intend to send him an email saying essentially "Thank you very much for speaking on the record with a sensible and pragmatic view of electornic cigarettes. I bought my first one simply because it would allow me to smoke in my local pub and might reduce the health-impact of my nicotine addiction. I quickly discovered I actually preferred it to normal cigarettes, and gave them up with almost no effort. This little gadget had almost instant, painless success in getting me to give up smoking tobacco where years of state-sponsored campaigns have failed miserably--and all this at no cost to the tax-payer. Thanks again for speaking in favour of the best money I ever spent and the best decision I ever made."

He may or may not appreciate similar emails from other e-cig users. If he is someone that government regulators consult about e-cigs (when the time comes to make a decision about regulating them) then similar emails to him may or may not influence what he says to them and their final decision.

GoldenP51 · 02-13-2009, 02:07 AM

Very well said KP!

SpaceCadet · 02-15-2009, 03:25 PM

Just been looking through the comments, and picked up on this one from the article's author:

"Thank you for your comments Avvie. In defence of ASH, however, I actually spoke to them about the electronic cigarette and although their comments did not make it into the final piece, they seemed very positive about the potential of the electronic cigarette as a smoking cessation device. They told me they were awaiting the results of further safety tests with high hopes that they will prove to be safe and effective."

So ASH is on our side!?! Wow. And I just criticised them on another thread, oops

On the other side, I've yet to see any comment from FOREST on e-cigs! I suppose, as it's not tobacco, they aren't that fussed!

LaceyUnderall · 02-16-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceCadet

Just been looking through the comments, and picked up on this one from the article's author:

"Thank you for your comments Avvie. In defence of ASH, however, I actually spoke to them about the electronic cigarette and although their comments did not make it into the final piece, they seemed very positive about the potential of the electronic cigarette as a smoking cessation device. They told me they were awaiting the results of further safety tests with high hopes that they will prove to be safe and effective."

So ASH is on our side!?! Wow. And I just criticised them on another thread, oops

On the other side, I've yet to see any comment from FOREST on e-cigs! I suppose, as it's not tobacco, they aren't that fussed!

I think that the real anti's are shaking in their skivees. We are seeing states change their smoking bans... not passing them... using the tobacco suit money for other things... I think we will find that if we caress these groups through RTV, then they might actually see the e-cig as a good thing. At least until the banish tobacco... then of course they will come after the e-cig. But if they can be on our side until these are approved... then that's a good step for us.

Plus, I believe the common every day non-smoker is starting to become interested in the e-cig as an alternative that they can live with and the scare and hate tactics might not work in the future anti-smoking campaign.

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02-12-2009, 07:56 AM	#11
Chuffer Supporting Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York State Posts: 123	It's interesting that the article states that an inhalation of vapor delivers only about a third of the nicotine that an inhalation of smoke does. That jibes with my experience. I smoke ultralight cigarettes, and so initially vaped with 6mg strength eliquid. But I find that to attempt to truly reproduce the satisfaction of an analog, I need to use 18 mg or 20 mg strength juice, or, consistent with the article, about three times the strength of the analog.

02-12-2009, 02:25 PM	#13
e-pipeman Moderator Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Salford, England Posts: 1,775	This is an excellent article. The comments to it also make good reading.

02-12-2009, 02:52 PM	#14
Drag on the Magic Puff Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Andalucia, Spain Posts: 58	I came across this article myself this morning and added to the comments on the NS website. It's nice to see a reasonably well-balanced and well written article at last!

02-13-2009, 12:20 AM	#15
K.P. ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 56	Being a UK resident, I was pleased as punch to read Peter Hajek speaking so sensibly about these devices. I found his contact details instantly with teh Google. I intend to send him an email saying essentially "Thank you very much for speaking on the record with a sensible and pragmatic view of electornic cigarettes. I bought my first one simply because it would allow me to smoke in my local pub and might reduce the health-impact of my nicotine addiction. I quickly discovered I actually preferred it to normal cigarettes, and gave them up with almost no effort. This little gadget had almost instant, painless success in getting me to give up smoking tobacco where years of state-sponsored campaigns have failed miserably--and all this at no cost to the tax-payer. Thanks again for speaking in favour of the best money I ever spent and the best decision I ever made." He may or may not appreciate similar emails from other e-cig users. If he is someone that government regulators consult about e-cigs (when the time comes to make a decision about regulating them) then similar emails to him may or may not influence what he says to them and their final decision.

02-13-2009, 02:07 AM	#16
GoldenP51 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 57	Very well said KP!

02-15-2009, 03:25 PM	#17
SpaceCadet Super Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 331	Just been looking through the comments, and picked up on this one from the article's author: "Thank you for your comments Avvie. In defence of ASH, however, I actually spoke to them about the electronic cigarette and although their comments did not make it into the final piece, they seemed very positive about the potential of the electronic cigarette as a smoking cessation device. They told me they were awaiting the results of further safety tests with high hopes that they will prove to be safe and effective." So ASH is on our side!?! Wow. And I just criticised them on another thread, oops On the other side, I've yet to see any comment from FOREST on e-cigs! I suppose, as it's not tobacco, they aren't that fussed!