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Old 03-10-2009, 04:36 AM   #21
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If a ban does come it would have to involve just the juice as in Australia, so anyone stocking up..that's probably a good place to focus.
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Hell, you can buy bongs in half a dozen head shops in town. They KNOW they are using those for illegal drugs. Tell me big tobacco isn't subsidizing this action.
Well how stinkin true is that?! One of the flea markets near my location not only sells bongs, but 'bowls' as well. They come in little kits! How is that acceptable?!!
And I have been working on becoming a distributor in my area as this is prime location. Doesnt this just screw my world up?
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:38 AM   #23
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AMEN!

We need to get our suppliers to drop any mention of these things as being healthy. They need to be listed as what they are, alternatives to tobacco smoking, and that's it.
Just vaporizers. That's all they are. Just sell the ones that look like penlights and get rid of the cigarette appearance to begin with and it should be all good. Maybe. Still - like other articles have pointed out - the issue is not necessarily the device. It's the behavior it mimics. Some people can not get past that.
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Hey - it's either that or they turn you into a pedophile, right?

Lol this has more to do with some idiots in the FDA trying to spare their jobs I think. There is no logical reason to ban these things. Not everyone uses nicotine in them. Big Pharma, Big tobacco don't like people edging in on their turf I guess? Well, we still should be able to get our nic liquid in a plain brown wrapper discretely labeled as something other than e juice?

Let's just call it liquid crack.
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It is illegal to sell or market them, and the FDA is looking into this,'' said Rita Chappelle, an agency spokeswoman
Rita Chappelle +1-301-827-6242, rita.chappelle@fda.hhs.gov
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Let's just call it liquid crack.


Then it would just be taxed.
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I would rather a serial killer have a rubber knife than a real one. That is the stupidest logic I have ever heard.
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If I want to vape with my zero nic cherry E-liquid which drug am I illegally ingesting again?

Suppliers will soon be wearing pagers and selling behind gas stations!
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If you peruse the FDA website (U S Food and Drug Administration Home Page), you can see several instances of shipments of electronic cigarettes and cartridges that apparently were never released. This includes shipments from one of Janty's bigger suppliers. The two primary reasons the shipments were stopped by the FDA were referred to as UNAPPROVED and NOT LISTED. I have not researched this enough to know if these were problems with the labelling of the product, improper licesning of the shipper or receiver or a general crackdown prompted by internal memos and whatnot.

UNAPPROVED - Section: 505(a), 801(a)(3); UNAPPROVED NEW DRUG Charge: The article appears to be a new drug without an approved new drug application.

NOT LISTED - Section: 502(o), 801(a)(3); MISBRANDING Charge: It appears the drug or device is not included in a list required by Section 510(j), or a notice or other information respecting it was not provided as required by section 510(j) or 510(k).
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Rubber knife....These people are a real piece of work.

I suppose their point is a little like saying, well why would you drive a hybrid? It's still runs just like a car, and cars are bad for the environment. Although Hybrids do have less emissions they still run on gas.....BAD BAD BAD!
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