Fda crackdown looms

[K.P.]

Originally Posted by VapeAllDay

I plead with some of you people on this forum, to please NOT write this lady, ESPECIALLY if you are wanting to say something nasty or challenge their motives.

Quoted for truth.

If you want to write them, be nice, polite, friendly and positive.

"I tried to give up smoking [number of times]. I tried [patch/gum/inhaler/hypnotism]. It always felt like a struggle, I hated it, and I failed every time. I had resigned myself to being a life-long smoker and all the unpleasantness that entails.

Then I heard about e-cigs and decided to give them a chance. And [now I only smoke 2 a day/I totally quit without any effort/haven't smoked in 4 months/whatever]. It worked for me where the traditional methods failed.

The reason these things are selling so well is because there are many people like me. Please don't take them away."

Or whatever version of the above in your own words. Flies, honey, vinegar, etc.

[TropicalBob]

Good advice. A few hotheads hammering the FDA or its spokeswoman will brand e-smoking as a "nut fringe element of malcontents who understand nothing about public policy or government."

That's not what we want.

[Sun Vaporer]

Originally Posted by VapeAllDay

I plead with some of you people on this forum, to please NOT write this lady, ESPECIALLY if you are wanting to say something nasty or challenge their motives.

Good advise here people. She is a spokesperson--not a decision maker--but as the old saying goes--"Don't shoot the Messenger. All the Messenger can do is get pissed off and shoot back."

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

...A few hotheads hammering the FDA or its spokeswoman will brand e-smoking as a "nut fringe element of malcontents who understand nothing about public policy or government."
That's not what we want.

And you are so right TB--a few hot heads ranting will only send the Messenger spinning back to the real decision makers realing way about the angry mail she is getting. Her job is to inform and make statements for the record. The statements she has already made were "for the record"--as it is her job to know when to speak and when to say "No, comment"--This article clearly put her right where she wanted to be--on the record, otherwise she would have made no comment at all. ---Sun

[Lithium1330]

Originally Posted by devonschmoker

Well these are my ideas so far. Please help “good” ones along and shred the "bad" ones. And please feel free to repost them on RTV. I didn’t because I could never figure out where to put them over there. -Devon

Post them where ever you want, we can move the posts later.

Ok, here is the deal, everybody is getting really paranoic on this thread, before we start to think that in the US never again a PV will be possible to buy, lets see to the past.

We think this devices are completly new, well the design may be new, but the concept isn't, remember RJR have a patent for a device very similar to this ones, and further more, there is a Personal Vaporizer manufactured in the US, suitable for herbs and liquid, the seller of this devices is selling essencial oils and herbal blends for the device, the device works with a lithium polymer battery and has a digital temp control, the device DOSN'T look like a cigarette, it is big, not so sharp, very expensive but IT IS NOT BANNED, the concept of the device is almost identical to the concept of an e-cigarette and I think the manufacturer will be VERY interested on rebamp the device to work ONLY with "essencial oils" making it sharper, slimmer and cheaper, this device is on the market since 2006 without ANY legal problems, please take a look at the Personal Vaporizer:

VM3 Unit

[talbrecht]

"If you had a serial killer who liked to stab people, would you give him a rubber knife?'' asked Chen. "This just boggles the mind.''

Beats the heck out of giving them a real knife!!!

[smokingclam]

I kind of agree with you on that Lithium. I don't think we are in for a total ban. Regulation?....definitely. I'm sure the FDA and Government have already done their tests on this stuff and knows where it stands already. They are already way ahead of us I'm sure.

[jennydotz]

The VM3--That's a crazy thing, I had no idea. Hmmmm

[Brian]

Originally Posted by smokingclam

I kind of agree with you on that Lithium. I don't think we are in for a total ban. Regulation?....definitely. I'm sure the FDA and Government have already done their tests on this stuff and knows where it stands already. They are already way ahead of us I'm sure.

I agree with you on that one... I almost guarentee they have already been trying to find ANYTHING they can... hypothetically, if they did actually find something wrong, it would have been all over the press and the FDA would have gotton out their torches and pitchforks already.....the only ammunition they have so far is some sales pitch from a mall kiosk salesman and public ignorance and prejudice....
my point is.. if there really was something wrong with the product, I am sure we would have heard something by now....

[verhoeven]

Hopefully this isn't a duplicate post of mine. Didn't see my first one.

Could we get Mancow form the free speech radio network to evaluate
a free starter kit. Maybe a short letter on what the FDA is trying to do.

Also maybe we could email Mancow about why we like our e-cigarettes.

Think I'll send an email now to mancow.com

Jim

[markab]

Originally Posted by Brian

my point is.. if there really was something wrong with the product, I am sure we would have heard something by now....

Hi Brian,
As optimistic as I am about e-cigs there has been no long term studies on its safety. With TCs (traditional cigarettes) I suspect there wasn't anyone who got lung cancer after smoking them for only a few years. We need e-cig manufacturers to act now and get more health studies started. It's a little late, but better late than never.

Mark