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Riffmaster · 03-10-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ikenmoke

Or maybe this is the workings of our Big Tobacco buddies..WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS...I see posts on here that has been viewed more than 22,000 times on one single thread..How many members do we actually have World-wide on this forum alone??? Surely with our outstanding numbers we can do something about this bull*****.
Being pollution free, harmless and odorless to others and the environment, containing only 3 main ingredients of 4,000 to a regular cigarette. We can have so many pressing arguments and key elements to stop electronic cigarettes from being illegal. WE NEED TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD!

Amen to that......HK has just banned it .....me and my buddies have to go underground.....to have an ecig....thats so fxxked up. I think the penalty is worst than being caught with a joint.
Lets bring some ideas to the table.....whining aint gonna help....
Eciggers Unite !

secondson2929 · 03-10-2009, 05:16 AM

If it is big tobacco they're just plain stupid. Just think how much money there is to be made with an addictive substance like nicotine that is delivered in a less dangerous way.

Tolken · 03-10-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by secondson2929

If it is big tobacco they're just plain stupid. Just think how much money there is to be made with an addictive substance like nicotine that is delivered in a less dangerous way.

Yeah, why don't they just buy/lease the patent?

MODEL77 · 03-10-2009, 05:25 AM

It seems many countries are just banning them with out a second thought. Is there no option to begin regulating them? I would actually feel better if the liquid was more quality assured. Some times it's hard to know if it is factory made or just basement made with loranne candy flavoring.

It crazy to just say no to such a viable and marketable product though.

nosmoke · 03-10-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tolken

Yeah, why don't they just buy/lease the patent?

Why dont they just F off they have had 50 -60-70 years out of smokers your product destroys life's ...finished end off FINITO ...to Miss Chen in the comfortable shoes....you need a f'ing reality check. I am not hurting anyone and im not pretending to smoke its just this thing i have is far more pleasant than chewing a bit of crappy gum all day, ps unlike gum i dont drop it on the sidewalk.

Lol it will end up like peeps at my work, im in the auto business and half my buds smoke weed and you know when the weed guy arrives lol....i will be like OMG when is the E liq dude coming to fix me up.

Tolken · 03-10-2009, 05:26 AM

This is making me chain vape

mawic5150 · 03-10-2009, 05:27 AM

NG NG NG NG why not just market them as an " herbal" alternative to smoking? """The FDA claims that they can only regulate things which fall under the two categories, namely foods and drugs. According to the Food and Drug Act passed in 1906 and 1938, all food additives and drugs should be approved by the FDA before they can be sold in the market. They all need to submit evidences about their health claims or how they can cure an ailment or condition, before they can be legally sold to the public.

Herbal remedies, which are classified under dietary supplements, are composed of processed or unprocessed elements such as plant barks, extracts and essential oils. Since they are considered as dietary supplements, they are not regulated by the FDA like drugs or prescription medications.

They are more likely classified and regulated as food, which helps make it easier for herbal remedies to be sold in the market since there are fewer restrictions in terms of their approval. Unfortunately, since these herbal remedies make health and disease claims, there have been discrepancies as to where they are going to be classified, and how they are going to be regulated.

According to recent debates, FDA do not approve herbal remedies due to the fact that it cannot clearly define the line that separates structure and function claims over disease and health claims. If the line was clearly defined, then herbal remedies would have been easier to regulate. Herbal remedies, which fall under dietary supplements, are not clearly defined and separated from foods. This makes it difficult for the FDA to implement its regulations since it cannot clearly categorize the herbal remedies as to whether it falls under foods or drugs.

One incident that further helped blur the lines in categorizing herbal remedies as foods is when different food companies started making health claims themselves. If this was the case, then these foods should be regulated as drugs. Due to this turn of events, the FDA is now finding it very difficult to further scrutinize the difference on how foods and the dietary supplements should be categorized and regulated. """

Flitzanu · 03-10-2009, 05:28 AM

this is what happens if you don't smoke.

duh.

YouTube - Sunny Side of truth's commercial, Nobody Knows

MisterPuck · 03-10-2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tolken

This is making me chain vape

Making me stock up. I now have 3 different orders for juice in varying stages of shipping.

Puck is scared at the mere thought of not being able to get more turkish blend/camel

The Wiz · 03-10-2009, 05:33 AM

Seem's like I missed alot while at work today! Terrible news.........Think I will vape like crazy tonight!

The Wiz!

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03-10-2009, 05:16 AM	#42
secondson2929 Manufacturer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Winston-Salem, North Carolina Posts: 150	If it is big tobacco they're just plain stupid. Just think how much money there is to be made with an addictive substance like nicotine that is delivered in a less dangerous way.

03-10-2009, 05:25 AM	#44
MODEL77 Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 22	It seems many countries are just banning them with out a second thought. Is there no option to begin regulating them? I would actually feel better if the liquid was more quality assured. Some times it's hard to know if it is factory made or just basement made with loranne candy flavoring. It crazy to just say no to such a viable and marketable product though.

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Tolken Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 75	This is making me chain vape

03-10-2009, 05:27 AM	#47
mawic5150 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan,USA Posts: 12	NG NG NG NG why not just market them as an " herbal" alternative to smoking? """The FDA claims that they can only regulate things which fall under the two categories, namely foods and drugs. According to the Food and Drug Act passed in 1906 and 1938, all food additives and drugs should be approved by the FDA before they can be sold in the market. They all need to submit evidences about their health claims or how they can cure an ailment or condition, before they can be legally sold to the public. Herbal remedies, which are classified under dietary supplements, are composed of processed or unprocessed elements such as plant barks, extracts and essential oils. Since they are considered as dietary supplements, they are not regulated by the FDA like drugs or prescription medications. They are more likely classified and regulated as food, which helps make it easier for herbal remedies to be sold in the market since there are fewer restrictions in terms of their approval. Unfortunately, since these herbal remedies make health and disease claims, there have been discrepancies as to where they are going to be classified, and how they are going to be regulated. According to recent debates, FDA do not approve herbal remedies due to the fact that it cannot clearly define the line that separates structure and function claims over disease and health claims. If the line was clearly defined, then herbal remedies would have been easier to regulate. Herbal remedies, which fall under dietary supplements, are not clearly defined and separated from foods. This makes it difficult for the FDA to implement its regulations since it cannot clearly categorize the herbal remedies as to whether it falls under foods or drugs. One incident that further helped blur the lines in categorizing herbal remedies as foods is when different food companies started making health claims themselves. If this was the case, then these foods should be regulated as drugs. Due to this turn of events, the FDA is now finding it very difficult to further scrutinize the difference on how foods and the dietary supplements should be categorized and regulated. """