Video Review:KR808D-1

[Nem]

Here is a video review of popular model ecig KR808D-1. Also known as Vapor King, Nebula, ECV92, HQV92, 208D and also Zeus. Had not seen the cart refilling technique on this model, so I thought I'd show it.
Hope you like the video!
YouTube - KR808D 1

[bizzyb0t]

You're demonstration was very informative. However, no offense intended but that model performs like garbage.

If I had tried that model first, I'd probably be back on analogs. Also, what a cumbersome cart design. Seems like a PITA to refill.

By comparison, here's a video of me using my JOYE306a "Super-Mini" from VaporGuys.com

YouTube - More JOYE306a Vaping

[Nem]

No offense taken however you are comparing apples to oranges here. KR808D-1 is a disposable atomized cartridge version and you are comparing short term vapor production of a 3 part system to the longevity of the KR808D-1 two part system. The joye306a will not outperform the KR808D-1 for battery or cart life at all! Plus you are going to have the added expense of buying atomizers and e-liquid seperate.
The refilling of the KR808D-1 is only if you want to do that but not required. I personally buy carts in bulk so I just screw on a new one and go. But this e-cig it lasts a lot longer than any thing else I've seen. Ipersonlly favor the 2 part disposable atomizer versions but to each his own.

[Cfidave]

Nem, very nice review, thanks. Is this also the same model being sold by Vaporello? I wish you had more time actually devoted to vaping this guy. The vapor amount looks a little on the light side, and you didn't mention your opinion on throat hit. I am trying to decide if these two piece designs could be a replacement for my 901, without sacrificing vapor production & throat hit.

[franklyspeaking]

Thanks for the review Nem, I don't own a 2 piece model like that and was curios about the performance. I personally top off carts too often to consider these models a viable option. I never really understood the appeal of a disposable atomizer design. With regular rotation between atomizers mine last for months.

[Nem]

Hey All, Sorry i did not spend more time on vaping it on the vid. There are a couple other videos on the vapor king that show that better, Leaford and Deficit both did one. These are all the same but company specific rebranded. Yes, vapor production is a little less than some other ecigs but throat hit is better, especially in the higher mg's. Not sure about the Vaporello but the carts and charger look the same. I would say probably yes to that as there are only a few model disposable atomizer types. There is a KR808D version with cartridge having the male post on it instead. Then you get into different names and model numbers for that one. It is the 100mm version I believe. The appeal of this type for me at least is no need to fill carts or drip all day, no extra att's to buy or worry that they will fail, just easier all around to use. Just screw on a cart and go!

[bizzyb0t]

No offense taken however you are comparing apples to oranges here. KR808D-1 is a disposable atomized cartridge version and you are comparing short term vapor production of a 3 part system to the longevity of the KR808D-1 two part system. The joye306a will not outperform the KR808D-1 for battery or cart life at all! Plus you are going to have the added expense of buying atomizers and e-liquid seperate.
The refilling of the KR808D-1 is only if you want to do that but not required. I personally buy carts in bulk so I just screw on a new one and go. But this e-cig it lasts a lot longer than any thing else I've seen. Ipersonlly favor the 2 part disposable atomizer versions but to each his own.

The reason why those carts last so long is it seems they're using the liquid at a VERY slow rate. However, to me the KR808D-1 wouldn't simulate enough of the smoking experience to keep me off the analogs. Perhaps it is wrong to pit that model to the joye306a because it'd be like comparing a compact Toyota hybrid to Corvette. A reasonable comparison can be made for the battery life, and I'm pretty sure it's just not powering the atomizer to make a lot of vapor-- and in that case I'd think it a quite gimmicky way to stretch battery life or a poor and inefficient design.

As for the price of atomizers, they're pretty cheap and I've got a 306 atomizer that I used and abuse HEAVILY for 4 weeks straight and it still performs like a champ, it cost me $10 + shipping for each one of those and it's cheaper if I order more. As for calculating the cost of e-liquid, well, you can't even compare, I can fill a hundred carts for $15 of e-liquid and I can easily drip with the 306. The only way for the KR808D to even start to close the gap as far as economics goes is being able to refill the cartridges, you'd have to take the time to surgically take apart the carts but then that takes extra time and is harder to use. Not to mention, a 2-part design is not very flexible.

I'm not here to school anyone on economics but the KR808D-1 doesn't even begin to compare to the joy306a (or any other similarly priced 3-part e-cig) when it comes to price and the cost of upkeep. The 3 part system is actually more economical.

I'd say if you were not as concerned about the money aspect and wanted more convenience, than the 808D is a winner but more costly and the 306 could be considered visa versa concerning ease of use and cost.

But for me, the fact that it performs so poorly would negate any benefit gained from ease of use and economics aside. I want something that will simulate analog smoking as much as possible with look and feel and from what you demonstrated the KR808D-1 falls a mile short on that measure.

[Nem]

I'm happy you like your e-cig, and I like mine. To each his own, this is why there are so many diffrent e-cigs manufactured. To appeal to the end users wants and needs. These work for me but I am not pinching the penny.

[BigLance]

Honestly, I don't understand all the excitement about this model (Vapor King). I managed to get a kit about a month ago (with two batteries). I've used both batteries with carts. The flavor is good, but the vapor isn't the best. You have to take very long drags to get good vapor out of them. The e-cig style E9 is much better.

The Vapor King cartridges are almost identical to the newer cartridges for the e-cig E9 (aka Red Dragon, Bloog, Smoke51, etc). I am not speaking of the crappy cartridges from e-cig or Red Dragon that come 4 in a pack, but the newer ones that come 5 in a pack like available from Smoke51. The threads are not as deep on the VK carts, but are only slightly different.

If you compare the E-cig E9 (same concept disposable atomizer with cartridge) to the Vapor King, the E9 beats it hands-down. I've ordered a bunch of cartridges for the Vapor King from two different suppliers. I just pop them on both my Red Dragon and e-cig E9 batteries, or my U9 USB Passthrough, and the vapor production is MUCH BETTER. The threads don't match exactly but 98% of the Vapor King cartridges screw onto the E-Cig and work fine. They just don't screw all the way down. Occasionally I'll find a Vapor King compatible cartridge that doesn't fit on the Vapor King, but almost all of them do. The occasional odd-ball Vapor King cartridge that doesn't fit, is in a pack of 5 and amongst those that do fit. In another post LEAFORD noted that he couldn't get the Vapor King cart on an E-9 style. I believe him, as I say I encounter a very small number that don't fit either. However I've smoked at least 100 Vapor King cartridges on my E9s. Regardless, the newer style E-Cig compatible cartridges are almost identical to the Vapor King.

I've been smoking 8 cartridges a day for the last month, mixing and matching the Vapor King cartridridges with the E9 (aka, Red Dragon, Smoke51, Bloog, etc), and the E9 style batteries always work much better.

Beware, though. The E9 style cartridges don't fit on the vapor king. That's why I usually end up buying Vapor King Carts... they fit on the VK perfectly, and pretty well on the e-cig E9 style. I can use either type of batteries, but I only use the VK when my other batteries are dead, because they just don't produce the same amount of vapor.

I only own 2x Vapor King batteries, but i own a lot of the e-cig type: 6x e-cig E9 batteries, 2x U9 e-cig USB pass-throughs, and 2x Red Dragon Batteries. Unless both of my Vapor King batteries are odd-balls, the e-cig E9 is much better. Has anyone else owned and compared these two models and smoked the Vapor King carts on the E9?

[BigLance]

I wish I could figure out how to edit my posts, I always make a mistake... On the post above I said "Occasionally I'll find a Vapor King compatible cartridge that doesn't fit on the Vapor King, but almost all of them do.". I meant to say "Occasionally I'll find a Vapor King compatible cartridge that doesn't fit on the E9 or Red Dragon, but almost all of them do.