Bartender Says Its Against the Law

[verhoeven]

Public Act 095-0017

SB0500 Enrolled LRB095 04425 KBJ 24470 b



AN ACT concerning public health.

Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
represented in the General Assembly:


"Smoke" or "smoking" means the carrying, smoking, burning,

inhaling, or exhaling of any kind of lighted pipe, cigar,
cigarette, hookah, weed, herbs, or any other lighted smoking
equipment.
"State agency" has the meaning formerly ascribed to it in
subsection (a) of Section 3 of the Illinois Purchasing Act (now
repealed).
"Unit of local government" has the meaning ascribed to it
in Section 1 of Article VII of the Illinois Constitution of
1970.

I have one restaurant owner who is worried about the "old people" complaining
so I let it go. All the other places were cool about it and I've also sold six m401's to people. The police chief and clerk bought one and love em.

[Klimpt]

I wish people would stop trying the public's patience by smoking e-cigs in non-smoking areas. It is NOT THE MAIN BENEFIT OF THESE THINGS. It drives me insane when I see promo material saying "It gets around smoking bans!". So what??? Is that why we are using them? No. We are using them because we think they are 100 times safer than cigarettes not because we can act like smart-arses and smoke in public indoor places.

Using them indoors is rude in my view as is arguing excessively with people who try to stop you. Just go out to the smoking area and do it there. The e-cig battle is easier to win without all this aggro over smoking indoors.

[ZambucaLu]

I wish people would stop trying the public's patience by smoking e-cigs in non-smoking areas. It is NOT THE MAIN BENEFIT OF THESE THINGS. It drives me insane when I see promo material saying "It gets around smoking bans!". So what??? Is that why we are using them? No. We are using them because we think they are 100 times safer than cigarettes not because we can act like smart-arses and smoke in public indoor places.

Using them indoors is rude in my view as is arguing excessively with people who try to stop you. Just go out to the smoking area and do it there. The e-cig battle is easier to win without all this aggro over smoking indoors.

I've vaped in public places but very discreetly.....that's what I do at work too. Why? Because if one person complains, then you're done. You will be the one asked to stop....not them. So I'd rather vape discreetly all night rather than be noticed and asked to go outside with it. A restroom stall also makes a nice discreet vaping area, and you can still stay inside

Lu

[fishhd]

While outside I showed it off to a bunch of smokers leaving the girl I was on a date with sitting at the bar by herself for like 10 mins.

Was she there when you got back.

Reminds me of playing fooseball with the guys all night. Of course way back then, we had ash trays built into the tables.

[kender]

Delite, "incompetent" is a much better word than the one I was thinking.

[jmoney]

bar owners will not allow you to smoke an e-cig in their bar if smoking is illegal UNLESS it does not appear in any way to be a cigarette, for the simple reason that it inspires other people to light up. find one with a blue light and there should be no issues at all

[Jim Davis]

Most of you are getting the wrong idea. It doesn't matter if they're legal or not. The owner or manager of any business can refuse their use for any reason they please, and there's not a thing you can do about it.

[Jim Davis]

There was another e-cig smoker in our group. I would have pushed it and told them to call police but didn't want to disrupt the party.

If you pushed it, you would have gone to jail or fined. Just because they're legal, doesn't mean you can vape anywhere you please.

[strayling]

Legal or not^*, it's their bar and their rules. On the other hand, it's your money they won't be getting in the future I would hope.

^* In Washington State the AG has gone on record saying that it is legal

[TropicalBob]

Jim Davis is correct. That bartender, with the owner's permission, could have you tossed on your e-butt in an instant if you fail to comply with his order/request. You are on private property and your conduct must conform to the rules of the owner or establishment. Bluntly, there is no such thing as a "right to vape." You do so only with permissions from others when on their property.