Shouted at by a Barman to leave the pub!

[cyberdude]

Hi Folks,

I went out last night with my wife and a few friends to a nearby pub and we were using our super cigarettes at the time. The Barman presumed we were smoking normal cigarettes from a distance, and shouted across the whole pub "PUT IT OUT" and when I said it's an electronic cigarette, he shouted "GET OUT". This was shocking to my wife who felt like an outlaw using it, but I just laughed and thought it was one of those great confrontational moments to remember. They even came up to us as I ignored the Barman's shouting, smiled at him and then used it again. He looked shocked, and so did the general public as I continued to vape smiling! lol. We didn't get chucked out, we stayed until we had finished our drinks and then moved on, as we planned to anyway :-)

When we went to a club after, I used my mini and super, and after an hour 4 doormen came upto me and looked confused, so I showed them the e-cig and they borrowed one of mine to try outside and evaluate for themself. I explained the legal use of them, demonstrated how it worked, and they said that I could not use e-cigs in their venue. After talking for a while to these 4 doormen, they said they made their decision as the super looked like a normal cig and that real smokers would think it's ok to smoke in the club too. I said what about the black mini with blue LED? That is why they were designed, so they didn't look like a real fag. They didn't have an argument for this, and I explained that it's not lit, contains no tobacco, no lung cancer or risk of 2nd hand smoke and is legal to use anywhere. They agreed to let me use it there in future, but they had to agree to meet with their manager to discuss this as they had never seen anything like this before.

Got some funny looks in another pub we frequented where some guys at the bar got the head door woman to watch me e-smoking, when she just shook her head and let me carry on without a chat!

So that's 3 venues we converted in one night last night! ha ha
I'm gonna use it in every pub in town eventually. Should be fun :-)

Cyberdude

[TropicalBob]

Why is anyone surprised when e-smoking is rejected? And why do sellers continue the inaccurate "smoke anywhere" nonsense?

All of this just further hastens the day a big boot comes down on e-smoking. Find another way to get your nicotine in places where smoking is banned! This kind of confrontation does e-smoking no good. Always ask permission first, because you know the appearance of you smoking in a no-smoking place will invite ugliness. You know that, so why do it without permission.

You have no "right" to e-smoke. Remember that. You may do only what a property owner deems allowable. Push will come to a very ugly shove if this continues.

[e-pipeman]

Good for you! It's worth asking permission before using imho - I've never had any knockbacks that way.

[BadSeed]

Yep. Always ask permission. Show the bar staff what it is and how it works and you shouldn't have any problems (hopefully not anyway).

[SANJP]

I would say if you expect to smoke a e cig that looks like a cigarrete your just asking for trouble .

always use a black mini if you want to go clubbing or puff anywhere its totally stops all the "OI What YOU Doing you cant do that in here " ! and you get nothing but " what is that its cool "

[BadSeed]

I've just got my 2 white mini starter kits through from pillbox. The staff at my local pub have seen my black mini, but not the white one with orange LED yet. I'll see what they think of it later on today.

[youfillintheblank]

Now that I read this I realize I should have ordered at least one black mini for public use. All my kits are white, I just prefer the look. I think i'd still "hide" it if I use it out. Maybe cover the LED with opaque tape in a movie theatre, or use it in a bathroom stall at a restaurant. I don't really WANT to have to explain it to everyone, maybe only curious smokers. Take the cartridge end off a white DSE901 and it REALLY looks like a real smoke.

JUst for s***s and giggles I really wanna fire it up in the mall like that. Right in front of security. If they tell me to put it out I'll "put it out" right on my tongue. Now THAT will create a reaction!!

[sandrajean1955]

Why on earth are all you people not fighting for the smoking ban to amended to allow choice for pubs/clubs to have smoking or non smoking.
Once this law is amended then you will be able to vape along with the smokers that will then start to go back to the places.
You all now that there will be pressure from BIG PHARMA and the TOBACCO company's for e-cig usage to be stopped somehow. The government want to keep both organisations happy and will do all that is possible to prevent people from using e-cigs in public places by convincing the hospitality trade that it a danger to public health to have to breathe in other peoples vapours.
So wouldn't it make more sense to fight to get the ban amended.
freedom2choose group are working with politicians clubs and pubs etc. to this end. Show some support !!
I can't post a website address as I do not have permission, So just copy and paste freedom2choose.

[Monroe]

I personally think that if you plan on using an e-cig somewhere, go ask someone in charge if its okay.

Chances are if you pull someone aside and explain what it is, and how it works, they won't have as much of a problem with it as they would if you just start using it, and someone complains that you're smoking.

[Chrissie]

sandrajean1955 I know what you mean but to me this shouldn't be a fight. So much better IMHO if we can just get everyone else on our side by asking if we can use the e-cig in pubs/clubs etc & explaining it.