Last edited by Uma; 02-21-2014 at 11:04 PM.
And yes, I did write emails to California state reps on this issue.
I just see California (state government) as entirely corrupt on this issue and feel minds are already made up. Kinda like the issue that is focus of this thread. Once the anti message has been allowed to settle in and be deemed 'most rational way to approach the discussion,' I currently know of no way around that, other than advocating for civil disobedience / demonstration. With the California bill, it would mean openly advocating for creation of a black market and not shying away from that discussion, even a little bit.
To think we live in a day and age where adult verification of purchases online is too challenging is downright preposterous. Akin to claiming we are living in a point in history when it is too challenging to ventilate enclosed spaces where vapor is in the air. Relatively harmless vapor, at that.
Last edited by sonicdsl; 02-22-2014 at 04:55 PM. Reason: Enough
I am one.
Currently involved in a vaping conflict in Europe. And putting very much time, passion and energy into fighting to be allowed to (!) embrace a healthier choice to smoking tobacco.
I never thought that people would have to fight to be allowed to (!) make a healthier choice.
Only because their healthier choice does not put Big Money into the coffers of Big Industry.
Only because their healthier choice does not pay bribes to those with deep pockets.
By the way, what are you doing to promote the interests of vapers?
Instead of putting so much time and energy into discouraging vapers and spreading anti-vaping propaganda - in a vapers forum, no less.
What are you doing to promote the interests of vapers, Zoidman?
Or was your posting just another red herring, to distract from the subject at hand?
You hit the nail right on the head.
Thank you for putting it so well
I fully agree.
Let me add one link that explains quite well why vaping bans occur :
Few dare call it bribery: OK grants, e-cigs, and another brick in the wall
Follow the money.
Oh, this comment to the above article makes fascinating reading as well:
John Davidson Jr
More Bad News for Tobacco Control
Last edited by Anjaffm; 02-22-2014 at 02:40 PM.
Infants are going to catch second hand smoke... I mean vapor... I guess we should not cook around the infant either... or take them into public where cologne/perfume should be a bigger concern. Seriously... people complain about the most ridiculous stuff. I had a similar run in with some jerk who had his baby with him and sat RIGHT BESIDE ME and had the nerve to complain about my vaping. I told him I WAS SITTING THERE FIRST and that if he had a problem with it then he can go sit at the other empty chair not 10 feet away.
We are getting a bad name because of the media scare and the uneducated not willing to research what happens around them daily. Most people blindly head into the world daily with no knowledge of what is going on in legislation and only know what the news tells them (if they even watch that).
My vapor does not harm anyone. I have the right to vape in public. People have the right to walk away if they don't like the smell. I'm courteous about my public vaping but I do not respond nicely to hostile encounters. If you come up to me with a PO'd attitude thinking I'm going to respond nicely, well, you have another thing coming buddy.
Vape on and I hope I NEVER see you in public.