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    im from south east louisiana and alot of places went from frendly come on in to dont vape in hear any more ie walmart iv asked why they will not alow it any more and they said its a public hazord and yet they sell the cheep pos and analog whats yall vew on this
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    If a business want's to forbid using an e-cigarette in their facility they have every right to do so.

    To be quite honest I have an issue with people thinking that it's alright to vape wherever they please. If someone can't be bothered to wait a few minutes to step outside they have bigger issues.

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    its not that its bc dumb ... people dont know how to respect outhers like not blowing the vapor in outhers faces
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    Fear of the unknown; ignorance is bliss. They are just saying what they've heard from all the bad press. It's their business and they can make the rules.
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    Well it actually can be a hazard. Some people are allergic to e cig vapor (most commonly to pg or a to particular flavoring). To say that it's completely harmless in public is a lie and to think so and to claim so does our community a disservice. It is completely understandable that a store wouldn't want someone doing it inside, both for the sake of protecting customer's safety, and for the sake of not turning away those customers that would be offended by seeing vapor inside (allergic or not; justified or not). Also, your point about Walmart selling their vapes and cigs is kindof pointless. Walmart sells cigarettes, but obviously doesn't allow them to be used inside. So, don't get upset when a place of business doesn't want you vaping. There are legitimate reasons for a store owner to have this policy.
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    do like I do stealth vape in an empty isle and no one knows its even going on.
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    I also don't bring my dinner in and eat it while shopping, and I wear headphones instead of using a boombox on my shoulder.
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    I was in a burger joint a while back and they were nearly empty. I asked the manager if I could vape and before I could explain it he said go for it. Shortly after, their business picked up and I put my kit away. Why? I was perfectly in the right as I had permission but I didn't want some ill educated customer giving them a hard time. Just because it is permissible does not make it beneficial. On the flip side I wish all business everywhere had a giant sign that said "vape on". Also I find it annoying the public wants to group me into smoking sections. I quit smoking for a reason and I do not want to be herded into that stench. Sadly business and employers think my choice to vape is not their problem

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    It's all about the cloud. People fear the cloud.

    Even Vapers on this forum fear the cloud. PG and VG have been in use for over 50 years in a myriad of things and we don't even know about it. It is commonly used in air sanitizers and nebulizing equipment. It is used in fog machines for special effects. Been to the Pirates of the Carribbean ride or the haunted Mansion? Enjoy that PG. But not one person is concerned about little johnny and his PG sensitivity when they go to Disneyland, unless of course it comes out a vapers mouth.

    I can say that vapor is harmless, I have years of studies to prove it, and even the most ardent anti e-cig organization the FDA has classified all the ingredients on my e-liquid as safe and what I exhale is in such low concentrations that it has been determined not to provide any risk to anyone other than the vaper himself.

    Don't let some nanny tell you that second hand vape is "not safe, or not proven safe yet". Quite the contrary, The Drexel report concluded:


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    The cautions about propylene glycol and glycerin apply only to the exposure experienced by the vapers themselves.
    Exposure of bystanders to the listed ingredients, let alone the contaminants, does not warrant a concern as the exposure is likely to be orders of magnitude lower than exposure experienced by vapers. Further research employing realistic conditions could help quantify the quantity of exhaled aerosol and its behavior in the environment under realistic worst-case scenarios (i.e., not small sealed chambers), but this is not a priority since the exposure experienced by bystanders is clearly very low compared to the exposure of vapers, and thus there is no reason to expect it would have any health effects.
    What does this say? Well it doesn't say it's 100% safe, nothing is. What it DOES say is there is not enough concern to warrant the expenditure in time or money to perform the study.

    In a Wal-mart there are tons of allergens and irritants in the air, from the scented candles, to the air freshener aisle to the stuff they pump into the air in the bathroom. Yet some people here think that vapor from an e-cig warrants "special treatment".

    That's what is so annoying about some people here. No cloud...No Problem.....Big Cloud....Big Problem... Yet Cloud or no Cloud I am exhaling the same thing.

    It's also annoying that folks come up with all of these worst case scenarios about sensitivities and allergies and all these "what if's" that they never apply to anything else that we breath. For some reason, e-cig vapor, for no reason, except that it can be seen, is singled out for special attention.

    Many smokers have been guilted by society into believing when we were smoking, we were doing something bad. They've carried that guilty conscience with them over to vaping.

    Well, I'm sorry, I'm not drinking the cool aid. Science says that there is minimal risk to me, and even less to others. (so much so, that further studies are not warranted)

    I will ALWAYS vape in public, indoors, outdoors, or anywhere that vaping is NOT SPECIFICALLY BANNED. I will stealth vape because I don't want the hassle.

    But considering some of the absolute ridiculousness of some of these arguments that are being used to justify the bans, and how almost every day, another government official is trying to protect us from the EVIL e-cig, then I'm beginning to feel some good old fashioned civil disobedience is in order.
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