Indulgence 18650 extended cup

[dedmonwakin]

Thanks for all your support, for the 6V extended cup. because we need to add the protection PCB into it. it will be on web in days. thanks for your patience

Kind regards
David Yang

Am I reading this correctly or was this just written incorrectly? You will have a PCB built directly into the extended cup rather than having a PCB built into the battery itself??? Why be concerned about a PCB battery then? As long as the charge is a smart charger, what's the problem?

[Technobob]

The PCB is needed to protect the batteries from under discharging it will damage the battery the cut off is 2.8V. It also protects the battery from being over charged the cut off is 4.2V. The PCB extends the life of the battery.

[dedmonwakin]

The PCB is needed to protect the batteries from under discharging it will damage the battery the cut off is 2.8V. It also protects the battery from being over charged the cut off is 4.2V. The PCB extends the life of the battery.

Yes, I understand this. What I was commenting on was David saying that there will be a PCB built directly into the extended cup.

Also, I think my opinion of a PCB battery required in the realm of vaping differs from the popular conception.

Where it is most important is in the charger, in my opinion.
Although, for "added" precaution, it wouldn't hurt to have a PCB housed directly in the battery. I don't think it's absolutely necessary. Most of us have a happy zone of vaping and that's in the realm of 4.2-2.9volts. Once a battery is depleted beyond 2.9-2.5 volts, vapor is barely there and heat isn't noticeable through my experience.

Most PCB batteries have a cutoff at 2.4-2.5volts (they tend to vary.) I must ask, how many of us allow a battery to completely drain or I should say reach the cut off? Vapor tends to be very slim beyond 3 volts. So, in my opinion, risk of the battery being damaged and non-rechargeable by draining it beyond 2.4volts is slim in the realm of vaping, again "in my opinion."

As for overcharging,...it is wise to have a smart charger that has a built in PCB, therefore making a PCB within the battery only a secondary precaution, but more so a financial precaution to avoid the battery losing it's ability to recharge conventionally (although it can be rectified if you know what your doing, but it's as dangerous as overcharging.)

This isn't a recommendation, just my opinion and personal experience.

[Technobob]

Sorry I miss understood I should have known better then to post after taking my meds I forgot who I was replying to, you know more then me. I'm still learning the in ands outs of ecigs but I try to help

[Di]

ok, some clarification here

the pcb is being built into the battery
theses batteries are being specially manufactured for the indulgence,
the pcb is being built into it,
the extended cup is designed and manufactured to fit to this re-sized battery with pcb incorporated into it.

so if you use other batteries with the Indulgence 6V extended cup,
they will not fit perfectly,
but it can be done.

how is that ??? clear as mud ????? ♥♥

[hidaho]

Batteries from dealextreme (sku.5790) works fine with indulgence, just to let you know.
There is so much power in these batteries, i can vape all day from 4.2v to 3.8v

[Di]

Batteries from dealextreme (sku.5790) works fine with indulgence, just to let you know.
There is so much power in these batteries, i can vape all day from 4.2v to 3.8v

me too, me too,
I use mine with the 18650 batty option -----

I vape constantly, all day, ( normal day is 16 - 20 hours )and they never run out of steam !!

I have never run one out yet, I just always plop in a fresh fully charged one each morning ---

loving it ---------------

[Di]

Sorry I miss understood I should have known better then to post after taking my meds I forgot who I was replying to, you know more then me. I'm still learning the in ands outs of ecigs but I try to help

TB

you never apologize here for giving advice and your opinion,

we value yours and everyone elses opinions and advice.

The lil gems that you all come up with are invaluable,

and the warmth and generosity of spirit in helping each other,
and often helping me as well, is what made me decide to come back to hostess on this forum.

[JeannieB360]

my advice is to contact customer service

and discuss your problem ------

I had a problem with my Indulgence within an hour of when I got it on New Year's Eve - it seemed like the switch failed. I reported it to Customer Service on Eastmall.net about 20 minutes before Customer Service was scheduled to close for the long weekend, and I had a response that they would replace all of the mechanical pieces as soon as the 'improved' ones arrived (there was no need to replace the battery and charger).

That extremely quick response was wonderful - I had almost no experience with Eastmall in the past, and I had ordered a new, unproven product knowing that there are often startup problems with new products. It was clear to me that Eastmall was going to get me a working Indulgence as quickly as possible.

THEN I signed in to the forum and found that some other people had had problems and reported them on the forum, and representatives of Eastmall were giving similar quick responses - 'We're sorry you received a bad unit - we've already determined the root cause of the problems and are working with our suppliers to get the new units as soon as possible, and we will ship you the replacement parts as soon as they arrive".

With some suppliers of many different kinds of products, if I contact 'customer service' to report a problem or to ask a question, I get a response like 'well, did you read the fine print on page 437 of volume 3 of the user manual that said that you must walk around the product in a counterclockwise direction, stomping your feet and chanting 'this product is absolutely perfect'?'

Eastmall basically said, 'We are sorry that you've had this startup problem with your switch. We will replace it as soon as the new ones come in. And, by the way, since some other customers have had a problem with the cup(s) and some have found the workmanship on the hand-tooled adapters to be less than they expected, we will replace THOSE parts for you now as well just to make sure that you don't experience those problems'.

My new Indulgence arrived yesterday, and it has far exceeded my expectations in terms of performance.

Wow - the concept of getting the problem addressed WITHOUT me having to spend countless hours explaining every detail of every breath I've taken since I first heard of e-cigs! And I wasn't going to have to send the problem part back to China before they would send me a replacement!

So thank you, Eastmall, and I would recommend to anyone who DOES have a problem that they report it to you via the 'customer service'/'contact' link on the website rather than assuming mentioning it in a post on a thread in the forum means the problem will be addressed.

[Technobob]

Yep David's customer service is top notch. He sent out my replacement before I had even received the original order what a guy. We also can't forget Di who has been great to talk too and is very helpful and her funny posts always puts a smile on my face.