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Old 06-15-2009, 04:08 PM   #21
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But honestly I can see where flavors like cola and red bull would really seem to be marketed towards kids.
WTF? Those are two of my favorite flavors, and they aren't being marketed toward ANYBODY. When is the last time you saw a tv ad, radio ad or even a banner ad that said: "Try the delicious new Cola e-cigarette liquid!" ???
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Old 06-15-2009, 06:39 PM   #22
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2. Environmental benefits. Imagine intersections not clogged with discarded cigarette butts from inconsiderate smokers. Imagine butts not floating into streams and oceans where they kill marine life. Imagine clean air anywhere.
How about the occasional wildfire that starts with a carelessly discarded cigarette and ends up burning down entire communities? That's another strong selling point.
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Old 06-15-2009, 07:59 PM   #23
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Good point BigJimW!
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I find Drum to be quite flavorful. Maybe I'm just getting old. lol. But honestly I can see where flavors like cola and red bull would really seem to be marketed towards kids. But I agree with you. I've noticed that adults buy just as much of this stuff as kids do. It's much more probable that someone of age will be willing to buy a pack of cigs for someone not of age than to get online and order them an electronic cigarette. Younger folks are not interested in e-cigs anyway. Smoking is cool. A healthy alturnative to smoking? That's not hardcore.
My home consumes at least one case of coke, and at least a 6 pack of redbull a week. My fiance is older than I am and he wont Vape, unless he has no other choice. I am nearly 10 years younger than he is, and I do vape. Not for the cool factor, but for scent factor. Smelling like an ashtray is NOT cool by anyone's standards.

I would rather people vape over smoking. At least when I am around them my eyes wont water, and I wont sneeze.

I also enjoy flavors such as Peach Blast, Banana Blast, Chocolate and Strawberry, Chocolate and coffee... Oh... and Vanilla Coke.

There is nothing wrong with this.

Next time someone tells me in person that this is something that is marketed towards kids... I am going to make them a very nasty drink, or just serve them unflavored yogurt. See how they like that.
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Old 06-15-2009, 08:59 PM   #25
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ABC News Matt Salmon representing the ECA
Yes, I saw this on the news. I believe it to be a good piece. But why did this video you have posted have to put in that disgusting toe nail fungus ad at the beginning and end of it? Eweeeeee, I didn't need to see that! Well, guess I should be happy it was not that ED commercial for the Johnson pill, with a bunch of aging men at a jam session. They are singing about their new found enhanced Johnson. Geeeeze, I hate that commercial. I would pay for service on my TV, computer, radio that just got rid of all the commercials....please someone invent it, or a module that can be attached that does it for you automatically.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:17 PM   #26
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I am just so sick and tired of the notion that kids will like them because of the flavors. What a bunch of BS! Where is a kid getting the money to use PV's? When does anyone talk about parental supervision? Just regulate PV's like they do analogs. You can't purchase if you are under 18. If you are over 18, you are old enough to decide for yourself.
"It's for the kids" is the Democrat's mantra. Beats "If you're not with us. you're with the terrorists" hands down, IMHO. Different party, different style to the talking points. Seriously though, why, when the reporter asks the required doctor about safety, is the pro- vaper never asked the same question? Perhaps the networks need links to the studies that have been done along with a request to disseminate the information?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:29 PM   #27
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"Flavors are for kids" transcends party lines. Pegging it to the Democrats alone is a little disingenuous IMO.
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Yes, but the hypocrisy runs deeper than that. Look at how many herbal supplements are allowed to be sold by the FDA, even though no medical evidence exists to support their benefits or expose their dangers. There is a core contradiction in the FDA's policy and it's only going to be exacerbated by the new tobacco legislation.
Sorry, but that's a bad example. The FDA would love nothing more than to get their regulatory paws on suppliments, but they've been specifically barred from that by congress. Big Herbal pushed that through so they wouldn't have to prove that their stuff does what they claim.

People complain about Big Pharm, but Big Herbal is over $45 Billion annually, and that ain't exactly peanuts, and to date they haven't had to prove anything safe or effective.
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"Flavors are for kids" transcends party lines. Pegging it to the Democrats alone is a little disingenuous IMO.
Not disingenuous at all. Avid viewer of C-SPAN. Basing my opinion on what I've seen and heard.
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That was MEEEEEE. First shot was me smoking my penstyle. They must have gotten it from the ABC affiliate when I did my interview...too funny
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