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    Olio -

    I don't believe this was geared towards consumers but suppliers.

    I think she is in the process of getting together consumer membership.

    Also, please put into perspective that the NRA, is over a 100 years old and the ECA is merely 4 months old. Also, the NRA defends your constitutional right to carry a gun... there is nothing in the constitution that gives you the right to vape. So this is a different kind of battle.
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    yes that is a company membership...consumer memberships will be available shortly.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaceyUnderall View Post
    Olio -

    I don't believe this was geared towards consumers but suppliers.

    I think she is in the process of getting together consumer membership.

    Also, please put into perspective that the NRA, is over a 100 years old and the ECA is merely 4 months old. Also, the NRA defends your constitutional right to carry a gun... there is nothing in the constitution that gives you the right to vape. So this is a different kind of battle.
    Good point about defending an interpretation of the constitution. I'm glad you guys are starting to realize that when you open a conversation with "I'm representing the ECA", and they ask "How many members does your organization have?", and you reply "other than the few founding board members, a couple", is more likely to get you laughed at than recognized as a political powerhouse. But I wonder how many consumer memberships you will be able to register when your organization has made it clear from its inception that you represent American Suppliers and nobody else, and only recently have changed your tune. I wonder how many people will remember that American suppliers have been the ones involved with price gouging and fixing, and even contacting Chinese suppliers like Dekang and Boge to try and get them to start using minimum order quantities so that the individual consumers can no longer order directly from the manufacturers. Or how most USA suppliers do nothing more than order from China and then mark up the price quite a bit to cover their "overhead", when consumers could just skip that whole process and do the exact same thing the USA middlemen do, but for much cheaper.


    I hope you guys are working on ways to mend relations and open up your membership to the worldwide marketplace, not just a select group of USA middlemen who want to make sure that their poorly thought out businesses, whose health rely on consumers being afraid to order from China, thrive. Because as it is now, I'm not sure how many people would advertise for you even if it didn't cost them $30 a year or whatever you had in mind for a consumer membership. So you've got a lot more on your plate than what you anticipated, but I hope that you all can work on earning our trust back, not just trust in the ECA, but trust in USA middlemen that make up your organization. Also, a lot of people hate Ronald Reagan and would never join an organization whose President is so heavily tied to the republican party. I would consider voting someone else in as president, or at least telling him to not include his Ronald Reagan shrine in future videos, and to maybe erase the history books regarding his previous positions held in the Republican Party. That would help a lot in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olio View Post
    Also, a lot of people hate Ronald Reagan and would never join an organization whose President is so heavily tied to the republican party. I would consider voting someone else in as president, or at least telling him to not include his Ronald Reagan shrine in future videos, and to maybe erase the history books regarding his previous positions held in the Republican Party. That would help a lot in my opinion.
    This is about a cause we all hold dear to ourselves, not your political views. This isnt about liberals, independents, or conservatives. This is about working together to keep our vice legal and free. Please check your political bigotry at the door.

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