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Old 10-13-2009, 03:47 AM   #11
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In hindsight, this was probably an obvious bet

We gotta get this guy an e-cigar.

But like Lacy said, never under-estimate what we can accomplish. I've been preaching it for months. If now is not the time for action, I don't know what is.
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Old 10-13-2009, 05:15 AM   #12
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Yeah but where was the ECA prior to Arnold vetoing the bill? Nowhere. I'm not interested in reading news reports from the ECA claiming some sort of victory or credit after the fact. I was REALLY interested in seeing a press release a few days prior to the veto urging some sort sort of awarness or support of the issue. Where was that? Pathetic really.
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Everyone should be so proud who worked towards this goal....
And you should feel proud too Lacey!!

I live in the UK, but any small victory, anywhere in the world, for the global cause that is e-cig, is absolutely excellent!!

I try to read your reports and links when I get round to it, and would like to thank you for all that you're doing on behalf of the global e-smoking community.
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Yeah but where was the ECA prior to Arnold vetoing the bill? Nowhere. I'm not interested in reading news reports from the ECA claiming some sort of victory or credit after the fact. I was REALLY interested in seeing a press release a few days prior to the veto urging some sort sort of awarness or support of the issue. Where was that? Pathetic really.
Timekey -

In case you missed it, as I commented in another thread towards a similar comment made:

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I have always found these types of statements to be very interesting.

If someone could please point me to the public forum where NFL coaches post their playbooks prior to the big game, I would sure love to know about it... Then again... the Colts are whooping arse this year
If you don't believe in the ECA that's fine. Whether you believe the ECA participated or not is your own opinion. But we also shouldn't confuse our lack of knowledge for truth.
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Old 10-13-2009, 02:07 PM   #15
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yeah he made the right decision, even though it wouldn't effect me, being in london, but still good news, maybe he may start using them himself. if celebs start using them, thats 90% of the recognition we need to not hear those annoying words "sorry you cannot smoke in this area"!
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While ECA members do not market these devices as a healthy alternative or smoking cessation device, it is clear that they do not contain the harmful tars and hundreds of carcinogens that consumers get from combustible tobacco products.
It is bad enough with all the misinformation going around without joining in. Is the ECA trying to be a credible oraganization?

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Old 10-13-2009, 06:25 PM   #17
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A step in the right direction, kudos to the Governator on his action (or inaction as the case may be).

It's scary when anything like this comes up in CA or NY because other states take notice on their rulings. When a ban is passed in CA or NY other states very quickly follow suit. So perhaps this might delay others states actions against e-cigs.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:49 PM   #18
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An excellent result!
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Yeah but where was the ECA prior to Arnold vetoing the bill? Nowhere. I'm not interested in reading news reports from the ECA claiming some sort of victory or credit after the fact. I was REALLY interested in seeing a press release a few days prior to the veto urging some sort sort of awarness or support of the issue. Where was that? Pathetic really.
I would also like to encourage people to go to ECA website and see that yes, they are involved, they are working, these are people just like us who want to ensure the safe, true, reliable information and advertising being processed from the member's on every website, for every e-cig sale, and yes to prohibit these devices from juvenile consumers. These organizations must become viable the world around, what happens here does make a difference everywhere.
No one organization is going to be able to touch every base and call every shot, it's just too big a job and way too expensive. And these organizations do need help to stay alive. Rather that blindly criticize and lend credence to negative accusations, become active in every organization you can find. You will soon see it is an immense undertaking. The opposition is extremely well funded and extremely organized as well.
Public input and public money is needed very badly to overcome the immense difficulties in the way of safe and free choice of alternatives to smoke-free nicotine use for adults.
There is a very real possibility of prohibition if we don't support these efforts NOW!! It's still very early in the fight to keep e-cigs available. Now is not the time to let our voices fade, and support the effort of all organizations who care enough to put the time and effort of real people to work in a structured, effective way.
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For any of you bloggers out there, feel free to post this press release on your blogs! The more traction we can get regarding this huge victory for the ecig/PV community the better.
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I don't know why, but I am really proud of myself. Check my title:

"Governator Terminates Proposed Electronic Cigarette Ban"

I didn't know I could be so cheesy! My wife told me not to use that title but I just couldn't help it! I don't suggest reading it though due to my rambling analysis at the end of the post.

I prefer Pumaman's analysis!
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