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Old 06-20-2009, 11:17 AM   #71
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I don't see why talking about illegal (maybe legal in your country?) drugs as long as we're not talking about them in relation to e-cigs. I think we'll be "safe" as long as we're not talking about using illicit substances in our e-cigs or liquid.

We can keep talk about any illicit substances to the OT General Discussion forums, only.

The rules can be easily clarified in that regard.

OK Talk (in the OT forum):
"Dude, I was so stoned, I tried to light my e-cig with a lighter!"

NOT OK Talk (anywhere):
"Dude, I tried to vape some hash in my e-cig and it totally fried my atomizer."

I hope my examples demonstrated ways the rules concerning illicit substances are OK and NOT OK, and which types of statements should be moderated and which types need not be. The rule doesn't need to be a blanket or arbitrary rule, just distinct in what's allowed.
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i think what we at ECF are for is talking about e-cigs and nic/non nic juice and some fun why should a forum meant for e-cig's allow drug talk of any kind.
in your example you are saying a after the fact comment in the first time case
the second time you are right it is a no-no hence needing a rule with out it the person can not get be punished.
now if i where to say "he is getting stoned with his e-cig." that is also bad it can infer that the e-cig is what is allowing him to get stoned. that is why drug talk should no at least be allowed that way a moderator has a rule to which they can enforce other wise we get info fights over. i say no such thing saying i was no aloud to say it.
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i think what we at ECF are for is talking about e-cigs and nic/non nic juice and some fun why should a forum meant for e-cig's allow drug talk of any kind.
in your example you are saying a after the fact comment in the first time case
the second time you are right it is a no-no hence needing a rule with out it the person can not get be punished.
now if i where to say "he is getting stoned with his e-cig." that is also bad it can infer that the e-cig is what is allowing him to get stoned. that is why drug talk should no at least be allowed that way a moderator has a rule to which they can enforce other wise we get info fights over. i say no such thing saying i was no aloud to say it.
Yeah, that statement is such an odd statement...

The fact is many people use other substances for recreational purposes. This is an e-cig forum, why should we talk about cars? Or anything else? We have OT discussion forums and it's in these forums where if someone mentions using substances other than nicotine, I see nothing wrong with it.

The reasoning behind talking about drugs as a no-no is that it can be used for ammunition against e-cigs, but if we're not talking about using drugs in the e-cig, what's the big deal?

I'd see more ammunition in posts where people talking about OD'ing on nicotine as possibly more damaging. I'm not advocating talking about drugs in e-liquid or e-cigs but I don't see why it'd be such an egregious thing to to even mention mind-altering substances in the same post.

Keep in mind we're already talking about vices when we're talking about nicotine addiction.
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yes and that why we users and moderators are currently working on guide lines a rules for the safe effective growth of ECF
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Why not keep the rule as SJ originally had it. I have read some posts where a member has brought up different ways to use it or a question like "has anyone found a way to use it with ----". 9 times out of 10 the talk about it is shut down by the other members.

We all know once the subject is brought up what we should and shouldn't talk about.
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Why make things harder for the moderators by changing a perfectly clear rule?

If someone is taking Morphine or anything else for that matter via prescription from a Doctor, why discuss it here? if there is a problem discuss it with your Doctor !

I have a wide variety of medications I take for various conditions, but I wouldnt dream of discussing them in detail, in an e-cig forum, or even asking advice on these drugs here.

If I want that kind of advice I ask my Doctor, or look up a specific forum set up to help people with that specific condition.

I for one, and Im only one person, would not like to see that particular rule changed or amended in any way.
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Why make things harder for the moderators by changing a perfectly clear rule?

If someone is taking Morphine or anything else for that matter via prescription from a Doctor, why discuss it here? if there is a problem discuss it with your Doctor !

I have a wide variety of medications I take for various conditions, but I wouldnt dream of discussing them in detail, in an e-cig forum, or even asking advice on these drugs here.

If I want that kind of advice I ask my Doctor, or look up a specific forum set up to help people with that specific condition.

I for one, and Im only one person, would not like to see that particular rule changed or amended in any way.
I agree with Christena, why would any one what to talk about the medications they take and ask advise from people that are not professional. Those people worry me, I think they are trying to make trouble.
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I agree with Christena, why would any one what to talk about the medications they take and ask advise from people that are not professional. Those people worry me, I think they are trying to make trouble.

That or just looking for attention

I agree, leave it as is allowing zero discussion about drug use.

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