Trolling (Group attack): (Rule Thread #12) - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

dnakr · 06-19-2009, 08:05 PM

Trolling (Group attack):

The post contains an attack against the intelligence, character, or appearance of a group of users.

Suggested infraction: 1

Zofryer · 06-19-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnakr

Trolling (Group attack):

The post contains an attack against the intelligence, character, or appearance of a group of users.

Suggested infraction: 1

As a professional forum troll, I take offence at the use of this term to describe the prejudiced "painting with a wide brush" type comments aimed at a group of people. Trolling is an artform. It's about using negative OR positive comments to incite the largest possible number of replies using as little effort as possible. It's not about being racist, or zenophobic or intentionally rude. The term for that is:

Attack Baiting <---

Nuck · 06-19-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnakr

Trolling (Group attack):

The post contains an attack against the intelligence, character, or appearance of a group of users.

Suggested infraction: 1

What about organizations or political affiliations? What about the conduct of a supplier that has a history of poor service or questionable ethics?

This one could use some more detail.

lordmage · 06-20-2009, 06:14 AM

Hey Nuck
here is a suggestion and only a suggestion for you if you personally dont like the wording suggest new wording you do like. why say you hate something without making it something you would like.

nitewriter · 06-20-2009, 06:28 AM

There was a supplier that came in (multiple threads) bragging about the cessation claims of his brand. I think this should be completely against the rules for suppliers.

I posted here because it insults my intelligence.

lordmage · 06-20-2009, 06:41 AM

nite they are not allow to post cession claims report there post and it will be looked into
exsiting rule "We will not link to sites, or allow suppliers to post on ECF whose sites contain the following:

* Health claims of any sort whatsoever, including:
o quotes from medical professionals
o comparisons to tobacco
o words such as "safe" "healthier" "cleaner" "toxin-free" "no-carcinogens" etc.
* Claims for smoking cessation, such as:
o "give up tobacco" "quit smoking" etc

The above claims are both misleading to potential consumers, and also likely to cause further trouble from the regulatory agencies." found here e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat - FAQ: Forum Rules - All new members must read before posting!

nitewriter · 06-20-2009, 06:53 AM

I thought that to be the case lordmage. Thanks

lordmage · 06-20-2009, 06:54 AM

no problem nite thats why i am here

dohsma · 06-20-2009, 06:55 AM

So are all of the sponsoring suppliers currently being held to this standard? I was not aware of that, but it's definitely a good thing

lordmage · 06-20-2009, 06:59 AM

as far as i am aware all suppliers have to hold to this should you find that they are not report it to SJ himself please

06-20-2009, 06:14 AM	#4
lordmage House cleaning Mod. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dundalk,Maryland, USA Posts: 2,585 Blog Entries: 2	Hey Nuck here is a suggestion and only a suggestion for you if you personally dont like the wording suggest new wording you do like. why say you hate something without making it something you would like. __________________ Regards, Mage What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us? Bureaucracy destroys initiative. There is little that bureaucrats hate more than innovation, especially innovation that produces better results than the old routines. Do not be trapped by the need to achieve anything. This way, you achieve everything.

06-20-2009, 06:28 AM	#5
nitewriter ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee Posts: 1,262	There was a supplier that came in (multiple threads) bragging about the cessation claims of his brand. I think this should be completely against the rules for suppliers. I posted here because it insults my intelligence. __________________ Quote: "What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day."—Dr Ley former Commissioner of the FDA. Last edited by nitewriter; 06-20-2009 at 06:28 AM. Reason: typo

06-20-2009, 06:41 AM	#6
lordmage House cleaning Mod. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dundalk,Maryland, USA Posts: 2,585 Blog Entries: 2	nite they are not allow to post cession claims report there post and it will be looked into exsiting rule "We will not link to sites, or allow suppliers to post on ECF whose sites contain the following: * Health claims of any sort whatsoever, including: o quotes from medical professionals o comparisons to tobacco o words such as "safe" "healthier" "cleaner" "toxin-free" "no-carcinogens" etc. * Claims for smoking cessation, such as: o "give up tobacco" "quit smoking" etc The above claims are both misleading to potential consumers, and also likely to cause further trouble from the regulatory agencies." found here e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat - FAQ: Forum Rules - All new members must read before posting! __________________ Regards, Mage What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us? Bureaucracy destroys initiative. There is little that bureaucrats hate more than innovation, especially innovation that produces better results than the old routines. Do not be trapped by the need to achieve anything. This way, you achieve everything.

06-20-2009, 06:53 AM	#7
nitewriter ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee Posts: 1,262	I thought that to be the case lordmage. Thanks __________________ Quote: "What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day."—Dr Ley former Commissioner of the FDA.

06-20-2009, 06:54 AM	#8
lordmage House cleaning Mod. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dundalk,Maryland, USA Posts: 2,585 Blog Entries: 2	no problem nite thats why i am here __________________ Regards, Mage What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us? Bureaucracy destroys initiative. There is little that bureaucrats hate more than innovation, especially innovation that produces better results than the old routines. Do not be trapped by the need to achieve anything. This way, you achieve everything.

06-19-2009, 08:05 PM	#1
dnakr Little Miss Mod Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 1,242	Trolling (Group attack): (Rule Thread #12) Trolling (Group attack): The post contains an attack against the intelligence, character, or appearance of a group of users. Suggested infraction: 1 __________________

06-20-2009, 06:55 AM	#9
dohsma USA Supplier Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: WI, USA Posts: 953	So are all of the sponsoring suppliers currently being held to this standard? I was not aware of that, but it's definitely a good thing

06-20-2009, 06:59 AM	#10
lordmage House cleaning Mod. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dundalk,Maryland, USA Posts: 2,585 Blog Entries: 2	as far as i am aware all suppliers have to hold to this should you find that they are not report it to SJ himself please __________________ Regards, Mage What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us? Bureaucracy destroys initiative. There is little that bureaucrats hate more than innovation, especially innovation that produces better results than the old routines. Do not be trapped by the need to achieve anything. This way, you achieve everything.

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