Ruyan Direct/Heaven Gifts - Good Folks

[Papa Lazarou]

Hi, I'm probably going to confuse you more now These are all models of pen style, which use a large cartridge of about 1ml liquid capacity (about 3 or 4 times what you will fit in an M401 cartridge):

RN4072
BE112
DSE801
Joye 302 & 304 (304 is the Janty Kissbox Classic)
M201
KR108

Theres a decent list of models with pictures here E-Cigarette Models

Often, but not always, parts are interchangeable between the pen style types. A DSE 801 cartridge works in a Janty Kissbox for example.

I haven't used the BE112 but they seem to be popular and well liked. Haven't read of too many complaints. I think Best Ecig is the only place that has them and they are different from the DSE801 (but similar). TBH I've only used the Joye atomiser in the Janty Stick, which has better battery life than a penstyle. Theres plenty of info about the Stick on here, they've just brought out a revised model. The RN4072 battery life is about the same as a DSE801, I like this model. The Janty Kissbox is expensive and said to not have as good a battery life as most penstyles.

Lots of people rave about the DSE801, not everyone has problems, and perhaps there are differnt versions of them about! Like I said, when the ones I've had from RuyanDirect work as they should they are great (I use them with a Prodigy now).

[CheeMiss]

Originally Posted by Papa Lazarou

These are all models of pen style, which use a large cartridge of about 1ml liquid capacity (about 3 or 4 times what you will fit in an M401 cartridge):

RN4072
BE112
DSE801
Joye 302 & 304 (304 is the Janty Kissbox Classic)
M201
KR108

Theres a decent list of models with pictures here E-Cigarette Models

This is soooooo GREAT! Thank YOU very, very much.

Everything on one page. This is really GREAT! Now I finally understand most of what I read. Having to jump between forums, then google search and back again, with so many pages open, just confuses the heck out of me, as I am sure with most newbies.

[Crutches]

This topic has been very helpful. Would very much agree with previous posts that selecting models, suppliers, etc has been a daunting task. I've been getting a headache trying to sift through all the information.

Despite having reservations buying from overseas, the input given here has not only made me comfortable with that but also helped me decide on a model to choose.

Ordering the 801 from them now. I would have never guessed getting into something like this would be so difficult on so many levels.

[CheeMiss]

Originally Posted by Crutches

Ordering the 801 from them now. I would have never guessed getting into something like this would be so difficult on so many levels.

Attention Crutches: The following is a copy & paste that I just got from a personal email from Best Cig (China) from the well trusted Beci Chen (employee of that company).
1) DSE801 they come from Sailebao will leak liquid, so many people buy our BE112 ( the same pen style model, but our products will be better than them).
2) Yes, through very very few our parcels will be stopped by the Customs, but for big package, it will be difficult to Canada Customs ( but USA will not any problem) in normal, you do not need to pay any duty, we always wrote only less $50 on the shipping invoice.
3) And yes, you can pay it by Visa Card or MasterCard, or by paypal, and if you like, you can choose by bank ( wire transfer), or by western union too. It will take about 5-7 business days to Canada.
4) For packing AC charger, we use white box, and USB passthrough can not been used from the charger, it must plug into PC.
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From what I have read on this forum, you can also use the Kensington Power Pack (that is used with the lap tops to give power when on the road), with the pass through instead of the usb on the computer.

I don't know if you are aware, but there are a couple of blocks on College Street (both sides), immediately West of Spadina that have shops with the cheapest prices in Toronto for electronic gadgets, ie: computer equip't, printers, cameras and such. I am going to check them out for the Kensington power pack or something similar, and there is one store in particular that has cheap cost items to build mods with. yeah! I will post that stores contact info after I go there next week.

And from what I have also read, the cost of shipping is only $12....I have to check that part out with Beci.

[rfun6]

I just got my order today from Ruyandirect. I ordered it on the 6th or 7th of July and today is the July 20th. I paid for the air (cheap way) and it got here faster than I thought it would !! The online usps (check on shipping), never would show if it was shipped or not. So don't go by that at all!
I got m401 battery silver, m401 cartridges black, m401 atomizer gold, dse801 kit white, extra dse801 atomizer black, and 801 cartridges black. All arrived here safely and quickly. I am pleased! I have batteries now hooked up charging, and will have to wait and see how all the products work. But so far I am a real happy camper!!
I like that they sent me some cards to hand out too.
Thanks Ruyandirect !!

[googled]

I'm another convert to Heavens Gifts. Order came in 11 days using el-cheapo shipping which is quicker than I've had from some UK sellers.
Prices are unbeatable in the UK and the liquid I've tried so far is first class. I'm in love with their Hilton (still has throat hit and good taste at 50% dilution) so I haven't got round to try all the other 10ml samplers I got hehe. Just ordered more Hilton in 'low' in 30ml bottles so I don't have to dilute as well as a load of other stuff. The place feels like a goldmine lol. Only problem I have with them is the stock on manual pass-throughs, out of stock last time and it went out of stock while I was putting the order in this time. Also stock on 10ml flavours, I want to try them all ! .

[sgupta]

Got my e-cigarette and three liquids from Heaven's Gifts/Ruyan's Direct, and I am VERY pleased. Got my new 510 in less than a week and am loving it! Juices are delicious also, and prices were great! (I do have a charger that doesn't quite have correct clearance, but not their fault - working to resolve it with them). Overall, can't recommend Heaven's Gifts/Ruyan's Direct enough!

I do have one question though. After the recent FDA information in the news, I'm trying to find a list of ingredients for all my juice suppliers, and I can't seem to find one for Heaven's Gifts/Ruyan's Direct. I've e-mailed (just tonight) to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has discussed juice ingredients with them to verify they do indeed use the safe ingredients (propelyne glycol instead of diethalyne glycol and nitrosamines). Hopefully this is the case, as they seem to be very reputable suppliers, but I'd still like to make sure.

[C6Silver]

I also have been impressed by this company.

sgupta, I don't think the issue is people using diethalyne glycol instead of PG or VG. The issue is that this substance was found in the contents of some juice by some suppliers. This would have been in addition to and I don't know where it would come from. I doubt they added it. The nitrates are also a mystery and are probably a byproduct and not something specifically added. You find these in meat, cheese, beer, etc. as well. Even if you get a full ingredients list I doubt you will find these listed.

[sgupta]

Gotcha as far as it being a byproduct. Well, some more good feedback for Ruyan Direct. I inquired about their liquid, and they rapidly responded to my concerns:

- All their liquid is made by Dekang, which produces 90% of the e-liquid out there and from what I've seen online is considered medical-grade. The liquid with the problems the FDA found was made by another manufacturer (name escapes me at the moment). So this is good news.

- Ruyan Direct does not manufacture the liquids in-house so could not *personally* guarantee safety (and it impressed me they were honest about this - they could have lied and they didn't), but they did send an SGS safety report on their Dekang liquid (which outlines essentially that it passes EU certification with flying colors and with a safe ingredent list) and also told me that Dekang is trying to get FDA approval, which personally tells me the liquid is likely very safe, or they wouldn't be doing this.

I'm very impressed with their response and confident in their e-liquid. I'll definitely continue to buy from them. Plus, their liquids are completely delicious. ^.^

[kalc]

Originally Posted by sgupta

Got my e-cigarette and three liquids from Heaven's Gifts/Ruyan's Direct, and I am VERY pleased. Got my new 510 in less than a week and am loving it! Juices are delicious also, and prices were great! (I do have a charger that doesn't quite have correct clearance, but not their fault - working to resolve it with them). Overall, can't recommend Heaven's Gifts/Ruyan's Direct enough!

I do have one question though. After the recent FDA information in the news, I'm trying to find a list of ingredients for all my juice suppliers, and I can't seem to find one for Heaven's Gifts/Ruyan's Direct. I've e-mailed (just tonight) to ask, but I'm wondering if anyone has discussed juice ingredients with them to verify they do indeed use the safe ingredients (propelyne glycol instead of diethalyne glycol and nitrosamines). Hopefully this is the case, as they seem to be very reputable suppliers, but I'd still like to make sure.

Have ordered many times from RD and their service and products have been great. Wayne is really helpful. Prices are excellent. Agree with u, cant recommend them enough