My Opinion Zi Moshi 801L LV -vs- Scredriver - Page 3 - E-Cigarette Forum

lachesis · 05-20-2009, 06:17 PM

Well, I'm on my 2nd day, and the TW 901 atty is working just fine for me. It's not a new one either - I've been using it off and on for past 1 month with regular 901 - and at one point, I thought it might have died - but SD revived it. Just needed to burn the coil pretty hot and all the gunks seemed to be gone now, and it's glowing rather evenly inside, which is a good sign I think. Also vapor production isn't that much different from the original SD one I had first.

Then again, Attys are always something of hit or miss... so I'll take my own experience with grain of salt.

As per LV - I think when Zi Moshi comes back from his doing-good-in-africa (good for him!), I might consider getting 801 one.

Price and performance that I hear, seems to be top notch.

wegster · 05-20-2009, 10:05 PM

Thanks - I take it the SD uses a single batt, as does the zimoshi 'short,' and the zimoshi 'long' still uses a single (but larger mAh), and the magnum uses a pair of them in series?

(I did check the zimoshi site, but couldn't find that info :-( )

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elendil

The LV (ZiMoshi) uses either the CR123 or 18650 (801L & 901L) or CR2(Magnum)

The SD uses the 16340

Here are some links for batts

18650: DealExtreme: $9.99 TrustFire Protected 18650 3.7V True 2400mAh Rechargeable Lithium Batteries (2-Pack)

CR2/CR123: DealExtreme: $2.65 BTY CR123A 3.7V 850mAh Rechargable Lithium Battery (Color Assorted)

16340: DealExtreme: $6.92 SpiderFire LC-16340 3.6V 880mAh Rechargeable Lithium Batteries (4-Pack)

Elendil · 05-20-2009, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wegster

Thanks - I take it the SD uses a single batt, as does the zimoshi 'short,' and the zimoshi 'long' still uses a single (but larger mAh), and the magnum uses a pair of them in series?

(I did check the zimoshi site, but couldn't find that info :-( )

Exactly correct.............

wegster · 05-21-2009, 01:28 AM

Thanks, Elendil. So, having said that, they're using 'proper'/comparable voltage, and the current doesn't magically increase here based on mAh ratings (mAh = longevity, not 'forcing current' through a device), then really, isn't this coming down to:
1. Which atomizer works best? (801 vs 901, I think?)
2. How long the battery in each lasts paired with respective attys
3. Personal preference

Someone said 'my SD killed N attys' - using the same atty in the 'other device' (regardless of which one, unless an added component is changing the complete circuit, should have identical results, no? (Assuming the atty resistance is the same, as well as their 'tolerances')

Elendil · 05-21-2009, 01:33 AM

I have an SD. Been using it for 40 days, haven't lost an atty yet..........

The 801 or 901 version of the LV will give you longest amount of battery life. (Especially if you buy the 3000 maH batts).

My LV on order is the 801 variety and I have a Stick on order as well. I will be interested to compare the 801 performance with the 901.............

TDM · 05-21-2009, 01:45 AM

OK found out the attys are dead?!?!? I can get one great hit from the screwdriver once every 5 hours. I hot it once and it wint do anything else for 3-5 hours. Then it will give me another really good and nothing again. It wont heat the atty at all. If I hold the atty to my ear and listen for the crackle. It will crackle for 4-5 seconds then is totally silent. wait several hours and it will do it again. very strange?!?

wegster · 05-21-2009, 01:57 AM

@elendil

Hurry up, I want reviews :-) The Janty stick is IMHO, a bit on the low side on mAh, but with the integrated passthrough, it's still a really appealing device to me (once they have a 510 adapter, if they do a 401 as well, frosting on the cake :-) )

I think the comparison really will become that - besides the battery life (SD and various LV versions), it's down to the atomizers and carts unless I'm missing something in the equation..

@truckdrivingmouse -
How old were the 901 attys before using with the SD? Have you checked the battery voltage and replaced it in the SD? Batteries tend to regain a *slight* amount of charge when left alone, is it possible the battery is at fault here, and not the atty? (regains enough slight charge from sitting that it has juice for a single charge only).

AFAIK, the SD batteries used aren't protected, so if it is the battery, it may or may not hold a charge (or for full duration)...

Elendil · 05-21-2009, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wegster

AFAIK, the SD batteries used aren't protected, so if it is the battery, it may or may not hold a charge (or for full duration)...

Are you sure on this. My SD batteries are protected.

Kendra · 05-21-2009, 03:10 AM

I have the SD, LV, and the GG and they are all excellent, I think. And, the customer service from Trog, Tim (and Imeo), and Ted are just top notch.

wegster · 05-21-2009, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elendil

Are you sure on this. My SD batteries are protected.

From the Spiderfire link you provided:

Quote:

- Model: SpiderFire LC16340
- 3.6V 880mAh capacity (manufacturer rated)
- Unprotected design

Diff battery, or the SD has an added pcb for protection?

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Elendil Benevolent King Moderator ECF Veteran Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: IL USA Posts: 4,149 Tweet this post!	I have an SD. Been using it for 40 days, haven't lost an atty yet.......... The 801 or 901 version of the LV will give you longest amount of battery life. (Especially if you buy the 3000 maH batts). My LV on order is the 801 variety and I have a Stick on order as well. I will be interested to compare the 801 performance with the 901............. __________________ All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken: The crownless again shall be king.

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05-20-2009, 06:17 PM	#21
lachesis Super Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 325	Well, I'm on my 2nd day, and the TW 901 atty is working just fine for me. It's not a new one either - I've been using it off and on for past 1 month with regular 901 - and at one point, I thought it might have died - but SD revived it. Just needed to burn the coil pretty hot and all the gunks seemed to be gone now, and it's glowing rather evenly inside, which is a good sign I think. Also vapor production isn't that much different from the original SD one I had first. Then again, Attys are always something of hit or miss... so I'll take my own experience with grain of salt. As per LV - I think when Zi Moshi comes back from his doing-good-in-africa (good for him!), I might consider getting 801 one. Price and performance that I hear, seems to be top notch.

05-21-2009, 01:28 AM	#24
wegster Ultra Member Supporting Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,348	Thanks, Elendil. So, having said that, they're using 'proper'/comparable voltage, and the current doesn't magically increase here based on mAh ratings (mAh = longevity, not 'forcing current' through a device), then really, isn't this coming down to: 1. Which atomizer works best? (801 vs 901, I think?) 2. How long the battery in each lasts paired with respective attys 3. Personal preference Someone said 'my SD killed N attys' - using the same atty in the 'other device' (regardless of which one, unless an added component is changing the complete circuit, should have identical results, no? (Assuming the atty resistance is the same, as well as their 'tolerances')

05-21-2009, 01:45 AM	#26
TDM Moved On ECF Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,505 Blog Entries: 1 Tweet this post!	OK found out the attys are dead?!?!? I can get one great hit from the screwdriver once every 5 hours. I hot it once and it wint do anything else for 3-5 hours. Then it will give me another really good and nothing again. It wont heat the atty at all. If I hold the atty to my ear and listen for the crackle. It will crackle for 4-5 seconds then is totally silent. wait several hours and it will do it again. very strange?!?

05-21-2009, 01:57 AM	#27
wegster Ultra Member Supporting Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,348	@elendil Hurry up, I want reviews :-) The Janty stick is IMHO, a bit on the low side on mAh, but with the integrated passthrough, it's still a really appealing device to me (once they have a 510 adapter, if they do a 401 as well, frosting on the cake :-) ) I think the comparison really will become that - besides the battery life (SD and various LV versions), it's down to the atomizers and carts unless I'm missing something in the equation.. @truckdrivingmouse - How old were the 901 attys before using with the SD? Have you checked the battery voltage and replaced it in the SD? Batteries tend to regain a slight amount of charge when left alone, is it possible the battery is at fault here, and not the atty? (regains enough slight charge from sitting that it has juice for a single charge only). AFAIK, the SD batteries used aren't protected, so if it is the battery, it may or may not hold a charge (or for full duration)...