Nazamataz's LoonGTotem Review

[trog100]

these people probably read from a script.. battery problem make sure customer has charged the battery.. script say.. put battery on charge for at least eight hours.. even if customer stupid this should work.. if customer says they have.. repeat.. but battery on charge for at least eight hours..

or to put it bluntly feed customer stock bullsh-t and hope they go away.. the fact they are chinese speakers makes this process easier.

why i waste my time telling folks who quite clearly do not wish to believe the truth still amazes me..

the green light means off.. the rest is bullsh-t.. these chargers do not go into a trickle charge mode period..

its no wonder these dudes get away with selling products unsuitable for the purpose they are intended for is it.. basically when in china u can get away with anything.. customer who cant grasp this is fool.. he he he

nothing personal here no names mentioned just a general comment.. said with humour..

its bound to offend someone thow.. the truth often does..

trog

ps.. out of curiosity do they quote a run time for the battery.. if they have any sense they wont.. which means lasting only two hours is okay.. why assume otherwise..

[Nazareth]

I haven't seen a run time quote o ntheir site- but hten again, I haven't checked the site thoroyghly

Well, had interestiung filure. Was up to 413 full draws, number 414 burnt my throat- literally burnt it- and the next draw did the same- the 416'th draw the atomizer died- but here's what I did- I wondered if shutting off the intake airholes might make more vapor, so I put the whole filter in mouth and drew- immediate scorching to throat, and terrible burnt taste- I am not sure if htis was just coincidental or what, but it's really strange it happened just as I tried this test- I say the atomizer died, but it does still heat up, but produces very little vapor- I tried refilling it thinking it might have just run dry, but it still isn't producing any vapor hardly- I'll work on it a bit more, see what's up there- if I can't get it working, I'll rip the cart apart and see if somethign inside got burnt- it sure tasted liek it did

Well, I was forced to start countign full draws all over again- on another one and up to 50 right now- sigh lol

if anyone has any questions, or somethign htey want me to try with hte loongtotem, lemme know- I might try 'cleaning' the burnt one, see what happens- not that I'm too concerned about losing the cart, but wil lbe interesting to see if it cleans up and works again- doubt it, but we'll see

[ned Zeppelin]

Nazareth I think the trick of keeping the cartridge a live and atomiser is not to try and let the cartridge get dried out. I think once its dried out its shot.

And as you can probably see the cartridge does get warm . so to keep dragging on it in the short amount of time which you have had it wouldn't surprise me that it's shot.
I think this because I am still using the same cartridge for over a week now and it's still going on.
But I am adding a few drops every three or four cigarettes.

[trog100]

pull a new one apart and try and see what the stuff that surrounds the little heater coil is made of.. if u feel rich enough.. does it look absorbent and how does it look after some use.. i recon its the coating that dies on these things..

trog

[Nazareth]

I'm going to pull the old one apart & rollout that cotton or paper- whatever it is, and see what went wrong- I also wanna get a look at just how the actual atomizer is constructed- I think, judging from Mixos' video, that it a straight wire, that goes fro mthe bottom to top, with some tubing surrounding it in secrtions, and the liquid is leached from the cotton into the tube and heated by the wire- I could be wrong, but w'ell see. Will also be interesting to see just which part burned out- I'll report back tomorrow on what I find- just goign ot concentrate on Draw count on the new cart for now- not goign to try the experiment that I tried earlier that mighta burned it out- just want to get htrough hte count as this will be htem ost tedious experiment- I'll post pictures of the old cart when I gt the chance tomorrow

[Nazareth]

Yeah Ned- that's goign to be my second test- to see how long I can keep an atomizer goign by keeping it refilled- It will by my only esmoking device, and I'll be smoking it all day long, so I'm not sure I'll get as long a tiem as you, but we'll see- I might be surprised- but for now, I want to get through the count for a standard fileld Cartridge, see how many full draws I can get to help people get an idea of how many eu\quivilent Ciggs they can expect vapor-wise- just to give a rough base figure/count to go by- Greencig claims 200-300 'puffs' (not sure if htey mean full draws like you'd take with a regular cigg or if htey mean short puffs or what) but my draws are full ones (if I have to double draw (drawing twice to point where led blinks) for a full deep draw, I count that as one draw, but usually I only have to draw once for about 4 seconds for a good strong vapor cloud so far

I'll concentrate on rough draw count number per battery charge in the next few days too- I guess I shoulda been counting that all along, but didn't think about it till just now- roughly thouhg, I'm getting abotu 3 hours of steady smoking per battery charge so far- that may drop as battery gets used heavily- which I fully expect

[Nazareth]

O.K- quick update on the full draw count.... I poppped a new cartridge in at 8:00, it is now 11:30, and I have really been workign this cartridge hard- smoking it steady, keeping count etc. I got to abotu 290 puffs, and started getting the burnt taste slightly that I mentioned in my previous post- I kept going, and got to 315, and got that scorching feelign in my htroat again, (this is a hot hot inhale- not the nice cool inhale when cart is not so spent), and the burnt taste is getting quite pronounced. I might maybe be able to keep goign a bit- but don't want to risk burnign this atomizer out completely.

now, I may be REALLY pushing the cartridge by keeping constant inhalations goign for 30-40 puffs, then taking a 15 minute break or so- and prematurely drying htem out by keeping them heated for such lengths of time, but it appears to me, that the prefilled liquid is only lastign the = of 3-4 packs of ciggs vapor wise. Now, would just casual smoking cause the carts to last longer even still? Probably, perhaps even most likely, as testified by Mixos, I can safely say, per my experience, that these things do indeed smoke like a 3 alarm fire for quite some time. Could I get 500? Maybe even 600 Draws by just doing normal draws and not pushing it as much as I did for this test? Perhaps, but I'll leave that to another day to test perhaps

The burnt taste and hot hot vapor was quite pronounbced, and is probably signalling hte end of the cart- but I'm goign ot try to see if I can keep it going with soem dripping- see if I can't salvage it for a bit- but I've had two carts now crap out- one completely, one just starting to, around 350-400'ish (probably average out to about 350 perhaps- some goign longer, soem not quite as long etc) which is quite good in my book. I certainly wouldn't push the carts nearly that long when smoking htem normally, but it's good I think to at least get a maximum case scenario baseline to go by, and I think I've accomplished that (plus I'm sick of counting and my lungs are going to be quite upset at me I think lol)

One thing I've noticed both times now, is that when the cart is beginning to dry out, the very end of the cartridge starts to get quite hot on each draw- I'f I've got my lips right near the end of hte cartridge, it slihgtly burns them- The end will get warm fro mtime to time, but when the cart starts dryign out, it gets noticeably hotter

I just dripped about 10 drops, and the burnt taste is gone, and not getting the hot vapor- I'm not sure I should be continuing with htis same cartridge, probably inhaling toxic burnt filter material, but oh well, gonna continue the test to see how long I can keep the atomizer goign by dripping

Another little note on battery time. I changed out hte batteries at 8:00, and liek I said, I've been hitting this cartridge very heavy and steady, and the battery just started blinking indicating it's ready for charge at 11:45, I think it's lasted pretty good conciderign how hard I been drawing down hte cartridges this past 3 1/2 hours, but like I said, this performance will probably, most likely diminish in a week or so to more liek 2-3 hours of normal smoking use- we'll see.

I'm goign to keep postign my updates whether anyone reads em or not, and I know they are long and tedious, boring even, but at least my thoughts and experience/tests will be here if soemoen wants to look them up

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Originally Posted by Nazareth

it appears to me, that the prefilled liquid is only lastign the = of 3-4 packs of ciggs vapor wise.

ooh mama, too hot, too spicy! (UK cable viewers might catch that reference)

Naz, you're crazy! Have you really done 3-4 packs of fags in three and a half hours? I know this stuff is weak but jeez - that's way above and beyond the call of duty. There's no deadline for filing copy, y'know?

[Nazareth]

Yup- sure did- The room was clouded over at times lol- Thought sure was gonna get kicked out of hte room- Yeah I know there's no deadline, but I'm wicked impatient- gotta know- gotta know right now kinda person Emp lol

The vapor past I would say abotu maybe 50 draws was really light inhaling (not that it was great to start with, but it did get pretty light after abotu 5 or so cigg worth's of vapor) but again, it was still producing good vapor- just real light hit- I've since been squeezing soem Carts I had for my penstyle out and refilling the loong, and htis has improved the hit quite a bit- when hte cart runs dry again, gonna try soem straight bickfords, just to see if it works, then I'm goign to try straight glycerin-see whqt happens- over hte next few days, gonna try a few different combos of juices to see what works well, what doesn't- the squeezed cartridge juice is workign quite well at moment- but stay tuned

Added- thinking back on when I tested the SmartFixx Carts for draw counts, I guess comparing hte two nicwise, I think the SmartFixx was a bit better for a bit logner, maybe morel iek 7 real ciggs worth or so, but that too did taper off pretty quick- don't remember gettign much of a rush then either & I probably smoked them almost as fast tryign to determine length of cartridges- Maybe I got a bit better nic hits in beginnign with hte SmartFixx Carts, but nothign really to write home abotu- hte only time I've really got hte Nic-Sweats was when testing homebrew smokin juyice- I'm not so sure the Mg claims are accurate- also don't forget, that it supposedly takes 5 draws of ecigg to = 1 draw of real cigg nicwise & I think perhaps hte nic evaporates fairly quick while Esmokin to be honest

Added: Sorry- keep thinking of htese thigns as I experience them- Ned is right, it seems to work better refilling if you allow a period of time to pass before using the cartridge again- not sure why- perhaps it needs to soak into hte whole roll of cotton or soemthign first- but whatever hte reason, I've foudn that tryign to vape the cart right after refilling it produces whimp vapor, then gets stronger and stronger as tiem goes by

[trog100]

is it impossible to get at the atomizer naz.. if this happens with a normal e cig a couple of drops straight in atomizers cures the delay problem.. its best not to let the thing right out before topping.. do it half way thru..

trog