Nazamataz's LoonGTotem Review

[Nazareth]

I'm not sure Trog, I think if hte liquid goes stright down the middle of the wrapped cotton (picture rolling up a paper towel really tight with a wire in the center, that is what it looks like when I pop off the end cap) I think it reaches the atomizer- Now, I'm not sure, but I think perhaps the whole wire in the center of the cotton acts as a vaporizer- I could be wrong though as I haven't torn apart my first cart yet, but plan to later today- I'm curious myself how the thign is constructed and works

Yeah, my second atomizer I've been doing that- the first one I just wanted to get a good count and baseline of how far it could be pushed to the max before it dried out comopletely- it appears to me after the two tests it's an qaverage of 350 or thereabouts. The second atomizer I'm using almost burnt out on me, and now isn't working quite as well as a newer one would, but it's still working with frequent refilling. Meh- my throat is a bit sore this morning- I didn't think it was botherign me yesterday, but when the first Cartridge gave that super hot inhale- it made the htroat a bit raw- Another note I forgot to mention last night- I've got Asthma, and when I took those few hot burnt inhales, it almost caused an Asthma attack- I wasn't sure if it was goign to cause one or not, reached for my inhasler just incase, but turned out I was alright, just some restricted breathign for about 20 seconds or so.

I probably shouldn't be pushing these tests with the breathign problems, but meh- my curiosity is too strong lol

Tried soem Hohnson Creek Smoking juice (tobacco flavor, PG) and it's workign quite well in my half dead second catridge- it's not giving out quite as much vapor as a prefilled loong cart does, but it's certainly still doing better than my SmartFixx pen or mini. The taste I can't really tell anything as I had refilled with my homebrew juice late last night, and hte flavors are mixing- I'll have to wait until I start a new Cartridge I think beforte I can review how the J.C juice does & tastes- for htis cart tests I'll just concentrate on vapor and leave taste review for later tests

[Kit]

Nice one NAZ its final arrived .hope it delivers dude in the next month keep it posted

[trog100]

are we talking a totally different design here naz.. no little ceramic pot with the heater coil sat sticking up in the middle.. no wire wool surround the whole lot....

so far i visualize a vertical heater coil.. just the wire no coating.. around this is the paper like rolled tube in direct contact with the wire..

is there woolly stuff around the paper tube to hold the bulk of the liquid.. or just the paper which holds the bulk of the fluid..

trog

[Nazareth]

Trog, I'm only goign from what I saw in Mixos' vid when he tore apart the atomizer, but no, it's totally different from the ceramic- your description is just about what I think the disign entails- I'll know better tonight, as I just got back and need a quick nap before I start ripping into the cartridge- I noted though on Mixos' vid that htere were small tubing spaced a little bit apart from each other & my impression was that the liquid drips or is drawn into these tubes somehow, & the wire then atomizes the liquid I believe,

There is just paper around the wire I beleive - I didn't see any wooly binder in Mixos' vid, but will know better tonight

Thanks Kit- I'm having a fun time with the loong- If nothign else, it's been a fun diversion so far, but I think this thing will keep goign for soem time (with the exception of batteries which are the weak link)

I made a mistake when I said it looked liek the carts are goign 3-4 packs worth of vapor- it's only going about 1 1/2 - 2 packs - for somereason I was thinking 300 full draws = 3 packs, but it's 1 1/2 in actuality, But I want to say that normal smoking might extend this even further as the cotton isn't being constantly heated and drying out quicker liek it did in my test- Perhaps in a week I'll do a full draw count over 2-3 days & see if it can go even further than 300-400 with normal smoking.

[Nazareth]

Alright- I've found out how the atomizer works- same thin wire wrapped around some type of fiber apparently (the fiber from my first Cartridge was completely gone- evidently, that is what caused the scorched burnt heated vapor that I inhaled). The wire has two wicks running vertically on either side of hte vertical coil. The wicks and the coil are wrapped in the cotton like material. I've got some pictures coming which I'll post a bit later.

Bottom line, as you'll see, running the cartridge dry is not advisable, because it will burn out the fiber in the coil, and will simultaniously burn the cotton wrapping the coil and wick and I'm not sure, but maybe even burn soem of the wick as well. You should be fine if you Vape perhaps a pack to a pack and half worth of real ciggs worth of vaping, and hten keep refilling.

The wick deal is the reason why it takes awhile for the vapor to start up again after refilling. The wick takes awhile to resoak I guess.

This must have been some kinda heat because the outer cotton wrap was still wet to the touch when I was unravelling it- anywats, will post photos in just a bit

[TropicalBob]

I understand what you're doing, but the relevant question to me is: Will this last a pack-a-day cig smoker one day? No fuss. No refilling. It's disposable! The combo carts cost (minus shipping) $1.25 each. Why refill? Why stretch? Chuck it and put in a new one. That's the reason this exists, right? What am I missing about all this refilling? I do that with my pen style and end up with liquid all over my fingers and clothes. Can two fully charged batteries last a day? Could we go to work with one cart and two batteries? Now, that has mass appeal. Especially if we find a cheap battery that will do the trick.

[Nazareth]

OK the first pic is one of the whole guts of the cartridge before removing it completely from the container- it shows the cloth or whatever it is wrapped around the wick in the center & you can't really tell, but the blue/green color going into the wick is the wire- this runs down to about 1/2 way, then the wick stops and hte coil with the fiber insiude the coild starts, then another wick with the plastic coated wire goes from bottom of coil to the bottom of hte cartridge where it commects through a soldering to the battery connector

Second pic I've taken the whole assembly inside hte container out- Note the dark area in the cotton- yup- that's the burnt cotton

Third picture I've unravelled the cotton to reveal the burnt cotton

Fourth picture reveals the coil, and if you look close, you can see where the green and red wires are soldered to the thin heater coil wire - at first I thought the photo revealedthe fiber in the middle of the coil, but it turned out to be the solder joints- I could niot find and fiber material when I took the whole thing apart- I don't know if it got totally fired up or if there might just not have been any to begin with- I certainly couldn't find any if htere was some.

Added one more pic at hte end just to give better idea of while inside assembly- the blue wire comes up from the barrtyery crass part on the bottom, on the outside of the whole wrapped paper, (you can't see it as it's in the back side of the paper roll) and drops down into the top of the rolled up paper in the center- it drops down through the wick as you can see i nthe picture, 1/2 down it gets soldered to the thin coil wire, at other end of the coil, the red wire is soldered to the coil, the red wire goes through the center of second wick, and then exits the bottom of the rolled up paper and is soldered onto the brass part again like hte blue wire is.

[ned Zeppelin]

Nazareth that's why I've never let the cartridge get dry. When I saw the other guy taking his to pieces and saw the state of the cartridge paper was in. I knew that you would have to not l let the the cartridge dried up. That's Why I've kept dripping this cartridge.
But do you think some other type of material there instead of this paper stuff would work and give it a longer life or would make any difference.
Especially so you could drip it far better .do you think this might be possible so basically redesigning it.
I know already how to improve the taste basically dripping of your choice but what made this better if you let it soak and marinated in their which I think somebody made a remark about why I did that and why not drip it and smoky straight away.
As you know you can do that but I do feel if you leave it in there to marinate as it doesn't soak up straightaway as you can see and the flavour becomes richer.


And this cartridge I have which is over a week now the Marlborough flavour is very present now.

[Nazareth]

What am I missing about all this refilling? I do that with my pen style and end up with liquid all over my fingers and clothes. Can two fully charged batteries last a day? Could we go to work with one cart and two batteries?

I persoanlly want more bang for hte buck TB- If I can stretch these 3 days per cart, then 50 Cartridges are goign to last nearly 6 months.

As to the mess on fingers, it's not liek refilling the penstyle where that happens- You simply pop out hte white part that covers the end of the cartridge, drip in your liquid, and pop that white foam back in- you're not handling the actaul cartridges or anythign liek you do with the penstyles. It's very easy to refill, and I haven't tested yet, But I'm guessign a refill coudl go all day too.

I know you want a no muss no fuss disposable, but I' personally want soemthign that can smoke all day, be refilled, and last at least 3 days to cut my cost by 1/3 as I'm on extremely limitted budget (Yes I know it doesn't seem liek it as I've been spending liek a drunken sailor lately on these devisces, but that was noly cuz I'd saved soem $$ this past year & was wonderign what to spend it on until I ran across Esmokign devices lol)

On the batteries- no, you'd need probably 3 batteries for an 8 hour workday TB- maybe two if you only smoked durign smoke breaks, but if smoking all day long at a desk, then I'd either bring 3 with me or bring two plus a charger, just incase

[Nazareth]

Ned- I'm really not sure what the wrapping is made of- it feels kinda liek paper, tears like paper (albiet a tough paper) but if you look at hte first picture, it looks more like the fibers from our 'wool' cartridges in our penstyles and minis (but I think htis is just because hte picture is enlarged & the fibers show up larger)

The paper in the picture looked dry, but I wrung it out and got about 1/8 of a standard dropperfull (like you'd find in J.C 32 ml dropper bottle of liquid) from it, so there was still quite a bitm ore juice left in the paper, but it just wasn't vaporizing hte juice anymore- the hole in the paper was only around the coil, and it didn't go all the way through the wrap as you cqan see in the second picture

I'm not sure what kind of material might be better than the paper presently used, I smoked it all day, and it burnt out, but still had a lot of juice left in it-

The paper itself still had plenty of juice, so it must have just been the wicks that got just a bit too dry, or perhaps I overpowered them by heatign hte coil too much by the constant non stop vaping

Oh & TB & others- one more thing, like Mixos, I'd recommend buying two chargers and one or two more batteries with hte first order to have two chargers going at onece to give a good rotation on hte battery charge times