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Old 06-09-2009, 01:45 AM   #41
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what exactly does the protected circuit board in the JS do waldo?
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what exactly does the protected circuit board in the JS do waldo?
A PCB prevents the battery from discharging past a certain point. The JS will not allow the battery to discharge past approximately 3.3v. The reason for this is that lithium batteries that discharge past a certain point will begin to generate a gas inside the battery. Once that gas is generated, the battery is unstable to be recharged and can result in an exploding battery.

If you were to look up the manufacturer specifications of the batteries used in the Screwdriver you will discover that the manufacturer requires the use of a PCB in products using these unprotected batteries.

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dumwaldo...what you're saying doesn;t make sense at all. The SD is tried and tested. How do you know how the prodigy will perform? When I told Cash that it was bad idea to sell a 6 volt mod...because the juices would taste like crap...he argued with me that it works great...and a couple weeks later he changes it to 4.5-5volt device. I mean he was trying to convince everyone that a 6volt mod using the 801 atty and dripping was the way to go. Who drips with an 801?....it defeats the purpose of the 801. Second it is torture to drip with 801s....since the atty is nowhere to be seen. Same with the GG....I guarantee most people will be very unhappy with the taste. Now the stick seems like a well thought out device....and has improvements over the SD...with the LED and and built in passthrough.


And as far as ergonomics....the prodigy and the GG are a disaster. The stick looks like it will fit the hand well. As far as the SD being a flashlight mod...it doesn;t matter since everyone who has one likes it....it is tried and tested....the other devices....it remains to be seen if they will work well. Already people are complaining of leaking problems with the stick.
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thanks, but after I hacked up my flashlights, and cobbled together my pv, I'd take the time to measure voltage when performance trailed off and I never got a reading lower than 3.5, it's really pretty obvious after a couple days of use to be able to tell when it's time to change the battery-you get no mo vape.
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thanks, but after I hacked up my flashlights, and cobbled together my pv, I'd take the time to measure voltage when performance trailed off and I never got a reading lower than 3.5, it's really pretty obvious after a couple days of use to be able to tell when it's time to change the battery-you get no mo vape.
Then I guess that is my bad. I read all these posts saying how the Screwdriver was so consistent so I guess I was wrong to believe that. See with my Janty Stick I have no warning when the battery is about to die because at 3.4v it is still delivering consistent hits like it does at 4.2v.

I should have not assumed that the Screwdriver actually delivered the consistent performance that people were claiming. Well maybe it is consistent just not as consistent as an engineered device like the Janty Stick that was designed specifically for the purpose of vaping.

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dumwaldo...what you're saying doesn;t make sense at all. The SD is tried and tested. How do you know how the prodigy will perform? When I told Cash that it was bad idea to sell a 6 volt mod...because the juices would taste like crap...he argued with me that it works great...and a couple weeks later he changes it to 4.5-5volt device. I mean he was trying to convince everyone that a 6volt mod using the 801 atty and dripping was the way to go. Who drips with an 801?....it defeats the purpose of the 801. Second it is torture to drip with 801s....since the atty is nowhere to be seen. Same with the GG....I guarantee most people will be very unhappy with the taste. Now the stick seems like a well thought out device....and has improvements over the SD...with the LED and and built in passthrough.


And as far as ergonomics....the prodigy and the GG are a disaster. The stick looks like it will fit the hand well. As far as the SD being a flashlight mod...it doesn;t matter since everyone who has one likes it....it is tried and tested....the other devices....it remains to be seen if they will work well. Already people are complaining of leaking problems with the stick.
Have you not heard? the Prodigy IS the next big thing. Even the biggest screwdriver fanboy on the forum is anxious to get his hands on one...
Another Update Requested.............

Sorry to say, but unsafe hacked together homebrews are a thing of the past and we are moving to professional quality products these days.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

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Am I the only one who thinks that the competition factor between the big battery mods is just starting to kick in and in 6 months much of this argument is going to seem silly?
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DW, again you get a huge LOL from me. Even Ludo, the JS maker, admits you have to carry three batteries to get battery life equivalent to an SD (with one battery)!

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Also dont forget the ruggedness of the SD, Prodigy, and GG!! If you remember the thread

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...our-stick.html

You drop a JS and it has a tendency of popping open!! I had my SD ran over by several semi trucks in the course of a night laying in a parking lot!! Use a buffer to get the scratches out and change the atty and good as new!
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whew!.......I work with a guy like this....we call him "amazing larry" and he thinks its a compliment....mensa matl.....also been referred to as"the legend"......was a navy seal at one time as well as many other notable professions.....I'm underwhelmed
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