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Old 03-29-2009, 07:36 AM   #11
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If I was a supplier I would be afraid one of my customers my accidental use this stuff to vape and kill them self.
Yeah true. Hmmmm.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:42 AM   #12
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Awesome! I wonder how long the same acid can be reused.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:46 AM   #13
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If I was a supplier I would be afraid one of my customers my accidental use this stuff to vape and kill them self.

You might be right--just like any solvent--you need to make the decision to use it and be careful with it--I saw a post today suggesting CLR--now no way would I try that, but Stone's idea here was a go for me because it made sense that if they are going to run it though an Ice maker and then flush it and make ice with it that I am going to consume--then that was good enough for me--everyone has to make their own decisions as solvents are just that solvents--so be forwarned and use at your own risk----Sun
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I am going to suggest VERY, VERY, VERY strongly against the use of chemicals like CLR. They are toxic and inhaling them is extremely likely to cause serious medical issues.

People need to NOT be experimenting with anything they're not willing to drink, IMO.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:57 AM   #15
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Nice job. That's a pretty remarkable finding. I found a local store on the website...I'll have to give them a call on Monday and see if I can grab some.

Like any cleaner you have to assume people will be careful so anyone that vaped it would just be a victim of social Darwinism.
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Stone--there is no damage at all --this is the read on it from the manufacture:

Liquid Ice Machine Cleaner is a 75% phosphoric acid of the highest food-grade quality. It is fast acting yet very safe to use and it does not give off any harsh fumes. Because of its 75% phosphoric acid content, it is the most concentrated ice machine cleaner in the market. It has a specific gravity of 1.63 and weighs 13.6 lbs. per gallon. Usage rate is 8 fluid ounces with three gallons of water.
Nickel-Safe Ice Machine Cleaner is a specially formulated citric/phosphoric food-grade product for removing scale deposits from ice makers having nickel-plated or tin-plated evaporators. It is acceptable for use in machines made by Manitowoc and other manufacturers using nickel. In fact, it was the industry’s first nickel-safe product, introduced in collaboration with Manitowoc .
I couldn't find the above description listed for the Liquid Ice Machine Cleaner...



But, it sounds like a better match for this product... Nickel Safe Ice Machine Cleaner...



You'll have to bare with me because I'm still new to all the e-cig stuff, but I thought I remembered someone saying that the atomizer coil is made of nickel (or some nickel alloy). Or, maybe I'm thinking of someones attempt at wiring their own homemade coil, using a nickel-based metal???
If a coil is made of nickel, maybe it would be best to use the Nickel Safe Ice Machine Cleaner product.

Regardless, it's good to know that you found no damage using this product.


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So that is all I needed to read--nice Idea Stone!!!-Thanks for letting me be the ginny pig LOL!!
No problem. I'm glad it worked... Now we need some other willing souls to try to replicate your success.


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Old 03-29-2009, 08:56 AM   #17
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way to go, sun!

another "must try" suggestion....
although i stated the H2O2 method would be my last try.....

a few thoughts....

what is in the remaining 25% of the cleaner?

will this method also clean the wick as in the H2O2 method?

i had suggested using phosphoric acid in the past but it seems it wouldn't be a good idea..... good you tried it.


...now i need to get me this stuff from work too, we have the 85% version pure,no cleaner .....
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Old 03-29-2009, 11:33 AM   #18
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Great job on the collaborative find guys.

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I could now see why the atomizer failed in the first place. The residual built up underneath and around the coil to to point that the residual actually lifted the coil up and forced the coil to break loose from the contact point on the left side.
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the atomizer you sent that I told you was cold with a broken solder was afflicted by the same symptom you described, above...there was so much buildup on it that it had pushed it up from the bottom which broke the contact...
Perhaps this is how most atomizers end up failing...and if so, maybe this is where future improvements on atomizers should be focused. Meaning, designing an atomizer that has a coil which will not break from its contact point no matter how much residue has built up.
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Sorry, my above quotes where from Sun Vaporer and Terraphon respectively.
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Wowwwweee sun.....I was dying to see how this worked for you......it was pretty much my last hope.....now all I need is to find out where I can get some of the stuff.......oooooh I am so excited
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