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Old 03-29-2009, 11:49 AM   #21
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good job Sun. After all the disaster news this week, this certainly lightens the mood. This stuff is going to be an e-cig staple. It's getting a space allotted in my e-cig toolbox.
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:16 PM   #22
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Excellent experiments SunV, sounds really promising.

Personally, after strong acid soaking,
I'd definitely boil the atomizer in water before use,
to get any residual amounts of acid and acid-metal reactants
completely removed.

Going to get some of this to try it myself.
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:25 PM   #23
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hmm... I wonder about using baking soda (since it's a base) to neutralize any acid residue *scratching head* Especially since I wouldnt want to accidentally vape phosphoric acid (that's the same stuff dentists use to etch your teeth before applying fillings)

Definately interesting to hear about using phosphoric acid, though. Thanks
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Hmm.. On second thought baking soda to neutralize might not be a good idea. Even though you can make a solution with baking soda (by mixing in water), it would have residue when dry, which would cause probs. You might be able to make the solution, filter it with filter paper, and then use that to neutralize any remaining acid, but that'd be too much of a pain.
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Old 03-29-2009, 02:05 PM   #25
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[quote=StoneE4;163227]I couldn't find the above description listed for the Liquid Ice Machine Cleaner...



But, it sounds like a better match for this product... Nickel Safe Ice Machine Cleaner...



You'll have to bare with me because I'm still new to all the e-cig stuff, but I thought I remembered someone saying that the atomizer coil is made of nickel (or some nickel alloy). Or, maybe I'm thinking of someones attempt at wiring their own homemade coil, using a nickel-based metal???
If a coil is made of nickel, maybe it would be best to use the Nickel Safe Ice Machine Cleaner product.

Regardless, it's good to know that you found no damage using this product.




No problem. I'm glad it worked... Now we need some other willing souls to try to replicate your success.



Enlarged for emphasis.[/quote


Here is the product safety data for an ice Machine cleaner. http://www.frontiersd.mb.ca/safety/M...NE-CLEANER.pdf
PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL!!!!!

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Old 03-29-2009, 02:11 PM   #26
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For the UK :
I've just placed an order for neat phosphoric acid & 100 vol hydrogen peroxide,
from Lindchem Ltd
Acids & Alkalis : Laboratory Chemicals Supplier - Lab Chemicals, Lindchem Limited
think they might insist on a company delivery address though?
(I'm getting mine sent to my work place).


Also for UK buyers : 250 ml and 1 litre bottles of EM
Effective microorganisms (EM) products from The Recycle Works
quite reasonable prices, just about to place an order myself, gotta see how this stuff works.
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Wow! I really want to say thanks to all you guys who tested this stuff. Hope we get some more success stories so I can go out and buy a bottle!

Exo, still wondering about that EM stuff too!

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Wow! I really want to say thanks to all you guys who tested this stuff. Hope we get some more success stories so I can go out and buy a bottle!

Exo, still wondering about that EM stuff too!

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I have just been around all my local shops and can't find anyone selling anything like it.....
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As chemicals go, phosphoric acid is relatively mild. Of course one has to be cautious as it is highly concentrated in this formula. But it is food grade and and we drink this chemical in cola (I know people who drink 2000ml at a go!).

It could be seen as rather condescending for posters here to say 'great, i' can't wait to try it' but also say hey this is not for the general population as though they are stupid! It could be colored red or something and have a flashing light in the lid perhaps? Seriously, the bottle will be larger than the juices or flavourings.

I simply suggested a convenient way for us all to get hold of this. It's a big step forward and i would like everyne to be able to benefit.

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Hmm.. On second thought baking soda to neutralize might not be a good idea. Even though you can make a solution with baking soda (by mixing in water), it would have residue when dry, which would cause probs. You might be able to make the solution, filter it with filter paper, and then use that to neutralize any remaining acid, but that'd be too much of a pain.
Plain white vinegar will completely dissolve baking soda (I use it in cleaning all the time around the house). It is far less acidic than the ice machine cleaner (vinegar is 3% acid), and will undoubtedly rinse completely clean with ease with just water.

ETA: Thank you so much to everybody who contributed to this find! Thanks for testing it, Sun! It would be great to put a pictorial tutorial (I love rhymes! I'm silly like that!) for folks too. Like, step 1: put on safety glasses and gloves, lay down newpaper to protect your surface. I have a dead as a doornail atomizer that I can't wait to try this on! If anyone near the Chicago burbs would like to split an order, please let me know. I don't think I'll have a hard time finding this, I have a cousin who is an HVAC guy so I'm sure he could order this for me out of his catalog but we may have to order an entire case at a time. So I could run a local co-op for this. Payment would be via Paypal to me, pick up would be either at my home in Naperville or at a mutually convenient public location. PM me if interested!

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