This one is really impressing the heck out of me. Don't know if it was a fluke during manufacture or what. My two previous test subjects failed around the 30 day mark so I was kind of expecting the same with this one. Even at 25 to 30 days per atty it sure beats the life expectancy I was experiencing.
Good luck on your test subject Pete. As Mr. Spock might say..... "Live long and produce vapor."
DSE-901 Owner & OperatorSince March 2009
all juice concoctions burn differently leaving slightly different deposits behind, all bat powers are different which effects buildup, all atty's are different, I agree, your solution for your problem may vary.
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From everything I've gathered in this thread and others it seems that VG clogs an atty worse, but can be cleaned or burned easier. PG is easier on a atty, but you can't clean it nearly as well. Sill not sure about burning PG off though. Time will tell.
I've been reading all the threads in hopes of finding a method for both PG and VG attys. It would seem that the ice machine cleaner and burning works very well on VG attys. The ice machine cleaner has limited success in Sun's reports and my tests on PG attys. I'm going to try the burning method on my next atty and see what that does. I use PG exclusively. Not enough throat hit with VG for me.
Wow, lots of reading to do after I cut the grass.................
Did a lot of skimming through here.
I had a 601 die from a burnt wire.
Took it apart, a massive amount of gunk shaped just like the 2 bottom feed holes.
It was vaped with straight purchased PG liquid.
It appeared the wire broke just outside the blob due to having to use so much heat just before its demise.
I tried all the listed methods, not efferdent yet, vinegar, alcohol, pepsi, stronger phosphoric acid, boiling water and the only thing that had any effect seemed to be the pepsi. Maybe 10% loss? All were soaked 12 hrs then rinsed. No heating. I still see no sign of a coil even after trying Gumout, other autmotive degreasers and Electronic Circuit cleaner baths. I wouln't think of vaping anything after that. Alas , they showed no improvement.
I read an interesting note on attys dying after a pepsi bath. Since I've been rebuilding my attys I have been looking into suitable materials for wicks. Oddly enough some stated they were highly corrosive resistant to most anything other than Hydroflouric and Phorsphoric Acid. Hmmmmm...the attys that died from pepsi may have had the wicks dissolved if this material was used in them. I've never seen posted what the companies use so who knows. If I can find the ref. again, I'll post it.
Edit: This is on the possible wicking material being used. I've had a couple with no wicks.
"They resist most acids with the exception of hydrofluoric acid and hot phosphoric acid."
http://www.argosyinternational.com/d...2010.14.08.pdf
Just an interesting thought..............
Last edited by Vaporer; 09-06-2009 at 08:02 PM. Reason: Found a similar ref. 1st ref didnt specify hot.
Ok....here is a thought.
The batteries are usually listed as 3.6-3.7v. Chargers will take them to 4.15v normally.
Atomizers range from 2.8-3.4ohms from what I've measured.
This determines the amount of heat the coil generates if adaquate current is available.
Carbon forms when a substance is burnt. What if it vaporizes at a given temp/voltage lower than our optimal factory charging conditions without burning? We would create carbon till the battery dies off a bit and not have to.
Has anyone tried regulating the voltage lower to see the minimum that PG or VG will vaporize? An amp meter would be a good indicator for the varying voltages and ohms.
Many have stated that the higher voltages produce more fog and less flavor.
I have cutoffs in autos that when measured are 3-3.3v still producing vapor. Not much at 3v.
There may be a good current window to stay in and avoid carbon formation all togetier or reduce it greatly.
A little food for thought.......
During my cola baths I use nothing but Diet Pepsi and I have never had a problem. Dissection of my previous deceased test subjects indicated wire breakage as the cause of death with the wicks still intact. There was a previous discussion about the coil wire becoming brittle with extended use and I tend to agree. On one of test subjects it stopped working after I dropped it in the sink during a rinse. If folks were having a problem with the "regular" Pepsi maybe it had to do with the sugar content of the solution.
Last edited by Majestic; 09-08-2009 at 01:09 PM. Reason: typos
DSE-901 Owner & OperatorSince March 2009
Well my current test subject is still going strong into its 68th day. Double knock on wood. I thought I killed it one day when I dropped my batt box down the stairs. The multiple impact broke the box, but the atty survived.
DSE-901 Owner & OperatorSince March 2009
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