Would Baking Soda work?

[Boomer]

Hi all one of my first atomisers is getting hard to pull when im taking a drag, i have an aluminium flask that i use for work and it says to put water and baking soda in it to clean i did try this a few times and it did not clean my flask at all lol, then i had a go filling it with Boiling water then adding baking soda and the next morning it was nice and shiny

So what i am thinking is would this be any good for atomisers? If you guys think so i will have a go and see how i get on, i have not cleaned any atmoisers before and now i need to. So i am trying to work out the best method.

I heard you can use cola but not sure the best way to do it and i just read a thread using ice machine cleaner but i do not have any of that to hand, prolly because i dont have a ice machine lol.

So do you think the baking soda in boiling water is worth a shot or better still has anybody already had a go with that?

Cheers Lee.

[Letzin Hale]

Hi all one of my first atomisers is getting hard to pull when im taking a drag, i have an aluminium flask that i use for work and it says to put water and baking soda in it to clean i did try this a few times and it did not clean my flask at all lol, then i had a go filling it with Boiling water then adding baking soda and the next morning it was nice and shiny

So what i am thinking is would this be any good for atomisers? If you guys think so i will have a go and see how i get on, i have not cleaned any atmoisers before and now i need to. So i am trying to work out the best method.

I heard you can use cola but not sure the best way to do it and i just read a thread using ice machine cleaner but i do not have any of that to hand, prolly because i dont have a ice machine lol.

So do you think the baking soda in boiling water is worth a shot or better still has anybody already had a go with that?

Cheers Lee.

Yes it might work, but there is a better method. Get some washing soda (not baking soda) and a piece of foil wrap (what you use to roast the Sunday joint). Lay a piece of the foil on the bottom of a washing up bowl or similar vessel, add hot water up to around an inch deep, add two large tablespoons of washing soda and then pop your vaporiser onto the foil making sure that the metal contacts the foil. Leave for an hour and most of the crud should have been removed and the foil will look black. Give the vaporiser a good rinse and then dry thoroughly before refitting and using. I have used this method with decent effect on vaporisers that would otherwise have been binned.
Alan.

[taz3cat]

coke made my atomizer look like crap and it don't work no better,

[surbitonPete]

Yes it might work, but there is a better method. Get some washing soda (not baking soda) and a piece of foil wrap (what you use to roast the Sunday joint). Lay a piece of the foil on the bottom of a washing up bowl or similar vessel, add hot water up to around an inch deep, add two large tablespoons of washing soda and then pop your vaporiser onto the foil making sure that the metal contacts the foil. Leave for an hour and most of the crud should have been removed and the foil will look black. Give the vaporiser a good rinse and then dry thoroughly before refitting and using. I have used this method with decent effect on vaporisers that would otherwise have been binned.
Alan.

I haven't seen this idea before .......I shall test it on a dismantled atomizer right now!

[kinabaloo]

Letzin Hale - the idea being something like sacrificial corrosion?

[Boomer]

Got to go to bed now as up real early so it will prolly be tomorrow before i get back to this thread, excuse my ignorance but what is washing soda? I never heard of it, if it's what you put in the washing machine i have disolvable tablet things.

Cheers Lee.

[revdrlon]

seems like it would work

[0ogier]

If I remember my a level chemistry - damn that was a long time ago.

Washing soda = Sodium sterate. when mixed with water creates a weak solution of NaOH - Sodium hydroxide.

Sodium hydroxide solutions and aluminium do not mix well together. one reaction causing aluminium to adonise and cause discolouration to its surface.

Anyway - I find tobasco or worcester sauce works a treat, though dont let it dry out.

regards

0ogier

[jbbishop]

Washing soda is also called soda ash and sodium carbonate.

Baking baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) drives off carbon dioxide and water and leaves sodium carbonate: NaHCO3 à Na2CO3 + H2O + CO2

If you can't find washing soda you can make your own by baking some baking soda on a cookie sheet for about an hour at 450 F in the oven. Heating in this procedure can be safely overdone, as long as the container is safe. The resulting sodium carbonate is anhydrous, which is more potent than monohydrate form. This form is hygroscopic, and also readily absorb carbon dioxide gas from air, so keep it in a air-tight container.

A definition from Dr. Dan Berger (Faculty- Chemistry/Science dept. at Bluffton College) gives a bit of understanding regarding the primary difference between Washing Soda (Sodium Carbonate) and Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate). ". . . washing soda will consume two equivalents of acid, while baking soda will only consume one equivalent." Washing Soda is caustic/alkaline with a pH of 11 (with 7 being neutral). Baking Soda is only slightly alkaline with a pH around 8.1 (again, 7 being neutral).

Though it does not give off harmful fumes, you do still need to wear rubber gloves when handling it directly. In concentrated doses washing soda can remove paint and wax.

Mixing washing soda with aluminum will create hydrogen, causing it to fizz.

The procedure described is used to clean tarnished silver:

Jewelry, Gems, & Minerals: Cleaning solution for .925 silver, mule team borax, aluminum foils

Remove Tarnish from Silver

[kinabaloo]

What is the chemistry here? What are the reactions?