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Old 10-18-2009, 06:26 PM   #21
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there's about two months of research into the Crest pro solution. None of this would have been possible without my support group sending me atty's to test and destroy.....
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:18 PM   #22
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atty priming that works for me:

1. rinse with PGA or Vodka (drys much quicker than H2O).
2. Blow out atty.
3. Prime with a couple drops or PGA or Vodka (thin PGA easily flows to coil).

Before I used this method it took a long time to prime my RN4081 attys.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:35 PM   #23
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let your cleaning bowl sit for a day or two, then look in the bottom, you'll see plenty of gunk on the bottom...I saw some paint chips too( I prolly knocked the paint off the ends while agitating them) and a very nasty layer of cloudy juice suspended just off the bottom. I think we're cleaning the mesh more than the actual coil but the coil and "boil pan" do benefit from the "wash". If the mesh is gunked up, the draw is hard. Try using hot crest pro but not boiling hot....that works even better when you heat it up, I used a double boiler to heat mine....
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:03 PM   #24
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Found it ... Mouthwash here in SA : Cepacol ® Antibacterial Throat Gargle
Has same active ingredient : Cetylpyridinium chloride 50 mg (1:2 000)
has a small amount of alcohol – should be ok though…

Thanks Prof Daffy and Sattec for all the research…
… will let you know … I have an atty that needs some work – just gotta get the mouthwash…
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:02 AM   #25
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I like your cleaning research.
I used generic scope because I already had a bottle; shares active ingredient.

I cleaned 2 attys with similar results. 1 atty is a year old. I typically use PGA cleaning.
The results were same for both attys. The used scope was almost clear but contained several very small particles. Particles much smaller than black pepper.


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PGA rinse.
Scope (Don't have Crest yet) soak and shake for a few hours.
Distilled H2O rinse.
Inspected used bath and found some tiny specs.
PGA rinse and blow.
PGA prime.
Atty working like new.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:10 AM   #26
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I like your cleaning research.
I used generic scope because I already had a bottle; shares active ingredient.

I cleaned 2 attys with similar results. 1 atty is a year old. I typically use PGA cleaning.
The results were same for both attys. The used scope was almost clear but contained several very small particles. Particles much smaller than black pepper.


Details:

PGA rinse.
Scope (Don't have Crest yet) soak and shake for a few hours.
Distilled H2O rinse.
Inspected used bath and found some tiny specs.
PGA rinse and blow.
PGA prime.
Atty working like new.

You soaked for hours? I thought sattec said for only 15 mins?

I just got home from the store with my Crest pro Blue Mouth Wash. I poured some in a small plastic cup and dropped in 3 attys that need cleaning. One is barely wicking.

Was planing on 15 mins.. Is longer nessisary?

Also what is PGA??
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:22 AM   #27
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Well I didn't have the crest so I just soaked them longer for no good reason.

PGA, pure grain alcohol; some use strong vodka.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:18 PM   #28
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I have a couple questions, inquiring minds you know

is blue crest the only mouthwash that works? Does different colors of mouthwash work differently? How about different brands?

I am intrigued by this and am just wondering about other possibilities....
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:26 PM   #29
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yes, 15 minutes was what I said...and only the crest pro was tested because it contains no alcohol, other brands may work good also.....heating up the pro wash too seems to help,make it a hot wash. I would avoid rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide....
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solution that can be used to extend the life of 801/112 atty's
Please forgive a noobish question, but I'm not familiar with the difference between different atty's....would this work on a 510 too?


and you mention not using straight peroxide, but I wonder about something like Listerine Pre-Rinse? Contains a bit of peroxide already in it, enough to foam up when aggitated. Just curious if you tested something like that?
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