I call it ADP Mod.. Auto Drip Mod!

**Scottbee** · 11-02-2009, 08:51 PM

Re: the two piece foam solution.

I had played with a similar idea after I had taken a KR808D-1 cartomizer apart. They use a tightly woven inner layer wrapped around the coil, and this acts as a wick and buffer between the coil and the outer sleeve of loose poly. I filled a cart up with the standard poly, and then capped it with the material from the KR inner layer. As it turns out, if you have the top "plug" of the tightly woven stuff, then you don't need the standard loose poly below it at all. The "spring mod" just further reinforces that idea. The lower level can just be pure liquid. You just need the "membrane" layer between the liquid and the atty bridge mesh to keep it from leaking and flooding.

**Winace** · 11-02-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by NightShadow

I have a suggestion for this, think it sounds possible?:

For the course material possibly use the fish tank sleeves then the normal cart filler on top, and spin a sring down through them both to get them attached. I am suggesting the blue foam as unless you cut the foam larger than the cart it is very porous, and does not stop a leak untill compressed further by using a larger section.

Just add spring in the middle of the pic above for finished product.

Spining the spring through both before insertion is probably the best way, then insert the completed assemly into the cart.

Glue wouldnt be a good idea lol, as bond material/method needs to be porous, hence the idea of using a spring. Another aproach might be to use some sort of mesh or bar on the top to hold everything in, but I cant think of an ideal mesh (or method to get mesh to stay in), and the bar idea would either need to be glued in place (not good) or have micro holes drilled in the side of cart ( more work than I feel this warrants lol) to slide the bar(s) through.

Any filler will displace volume which can be used by fluid. I have done this idea with the foam, compress more toward the top, leave the bottom more porous. It works good, but the horizontal spring rules. I think the spring itself is wicking the fluid to the foam/poly. It also captures the fluid in between the coils when the cart is going low. The rounded surface allows for the foam mesh/poly to be tucked in on the sides. The spring also conducts some heat to allow more fluidity of the juice. All around, I can not think of a better untensil than the spring to use here. Now, the material, not sure. I do know they use different materials to make springs, including materials that do not contain metallic substances.

**SCOTTYBALLS** · 11-02-2009, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Winace

Definitely looks good, and sure it would do the trick. I think the spring displaces a little less room. I do not believe temperatures are getting to the point to melt the rubber, and inhaling through a spring??? Well, compared to what I've smoked in my history... a spring is the least of my concerns

LMAO!! you aint lying!! You dont even want to know some of the things ive came up with as far as smoking utenzels.. dont make me whoop out some of my "analog" smoking devices

**Lashes** · 11-02-2009, 08:56 PM

Does anyone have a JOYE contact? They should make a new aftermarket cart based on this idea, with the flip top cart so filling it back up is easy, a built in "spring" to stop the poly-fill and hold it into the flip top area.

I cant imagine it would cost that much more to produce than the stock cart. And I'm sure all of us would gladly pay a bit more for carts that worked right out of the box.

Man I would love to have carts like that.

**Fodder4U** · 11-02-2009, 08:57 PM

I am trying the spring mod today and so far it is working great. I am a n00b and just went full time on e-cigs (have a Joye 510) on Friday. LOL I am already looking into getting a SB or a Protege as I am going through batteries like crazy. I just love all the great tips and tricks yall have come up with and everyone is so eager to share. Thanks

**kristin** · 11-02-2009, 09:08 PM

I used a drinking straw cut to length instead of a spring or the cut piece from the rubber cap. Displaces less liquid than the rubber piece and no metal to corrode.

I also used a piece of a greenie scrubber for the plug - BUT don't use the green ones. I switched to the BLUE NON-SCRATCH as they don't contain abrasives embedded in them!! Press the cart mouth on the greenie and it leaves an impression to cut around. Just make it slightly larger, so it seals the opening. The liquid chamber itself never gets hot, so no worries about the straw melting.

**SCOTTYBALLS** · 11-02-2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Lashes

Does anyone have a JOYE contact? They should make a new aftermarket cart based on this idea, with the flip top cart so filling it back up is easy, a built in "spring" to stop the poly-fill and hold it into the flip top area.

I cant imagine it would cost that much more to produce than the stock cart. And I'm sure all of us would gladly pay a bit more for carts that worked right out of the box.

Man I would love to have carts like that.

I wish they would upgrade the whole thing theres alot of things that could use improvment my biggest gripe is how inconsistant there attys are.. out of 6 attys I have 1 that hits like a freaking champ the rest of them are not worth a crap! ive cleaned and re primed nothing helps.. I guess Im going to have to start checking the ohm's on these things when they arrive I dont understand why the ohm's on a brand new atty are all over the place Ive seen anywhere from 1.5 ohm's to 5 on brand new attys I dont get it..

guess this is the next project improving on them non hitting attys

**Scottbee** · 11-02-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lashes

Does anyone have a JOYE contact? They should make a new aftermarket cart based on this idea, with the flip top cart so filling it back up is easy, a built in "spring" to stop the poly-fill and hold it into the flip top area.

I cant imagine it would cost that much more to produce than the stock cart. And I'm sure all of us would gladly pay a bit more for carts that worked right out of the box.

Man I would love to have carts like that.

Heck... you really don't need a spring. Just a couple of "cross bars" molded into the original design to keep the poly at the correct elevation, and you're done. Early in this thread somebody posted an idea about putting two staple bars across the cart.... this will actually work well, it's just harder to make than dropping a spring down in there.

P.S. If the poly is part of the "flip top", then you don't need a bar or a spring or anything. The rest of the cart can just be an empty well.

**Scottbee** · 11-02-2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by kristin

I used a drinking straw cut to length instead of a spring or the cut piece from the rubber cap. Displaces less liquid than the rubber piece and no metal to corrode.

I also used a piece of a greenie scrubber for the plug. Press the cart mouth on the greenie and it leaves an impression to cut around. Just make it slightly larger, so it seals the opening. The liquid chamber itself never gets hot, so no worries about the straw melting.

Kristin,

How thick is that scrubbie pad?