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I call it ADP Mod.. Auto Drip Mod! in Tips and Tricks; Originally Posted by DC2 I agree it won't get hot at all, but that is not my area of concern. ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC2 View Post
    I agree it won't get hot at all, but that is not my area of concern.
    Things can still leach stuff into liquids they are sitting in, whether they get hot or not.

    As an example, I can not drink bottled water if it has been opened for more than a day.
    It starts to taste like plastic.

    Ingesting whatever might leach is not a big concern for me.
    Vaporizing whatever might leach is a concern though, because that changes things.

    In the end, it is not a BIG concern for me, but I would like to know for sure.
    Plastic water bottles are composite plastics. The greenie material is nylon. I ended up just using two coffee stirrer straws, side-by-side. They are made for hot liquids & use around food products, so should be fine.

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    What brand is the greenie thing?
    Scotch Brite - BUT USE THE BLUE NON-SCRATCH KIND!!

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    I did the exact same thing last night! I was thinking what would support the "filler plug". I was thinking maybe a vertical coffee stirrer (who hasn't stolen a handful of those from work!) but I though fluid would be wasted or trapped in the tube itself and then I thought of a drinking straw. I have some cheap ones (thinner then the kind you get at a fast food place). I dismissed the idea because it hugged the wall too tightly and I was afraid the plug would go into the hole. It was extremely form fitting. Put in on the back burner until I could find an even thinner straw. I even folded it in half to make it more centered, but it seemed to take up too much space.

    I also remember reading about the horizontal spring to press the fibers up into the atomizer from a few months back, but nothing really came of it. Just one of a million ideas thrown around, but I couldn't wrap my brain around it at the time. Seemed more like a solution for having to fluff up the fibers. The vertical spring seems to make a lot of sense in how much space it leaves for liquid.

    There's probably going to be a million variations of this, I'm just glad there's enough evidence that the theory works. Kudos again, Scotty. Besides, nobody ever remembers who invented what. It's who makes it famous, right. =)

    As for cutting off 2mm off the end of a cartridge cap. NEVER! I actually have a need for those caps now and I'm down to like three of them! But that does sound like a good solution for 801's and 901's that don't have a ledge.

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    P.S. The water sponge bottle was a brilliant visual demonstration of the principal.
    P.P.S. I did dismiss the straw a little quickly and might revisit the concept.
    I used a McDonald's straw at first, which the diameter was too wide. So I cut a piece out lengthwise, which made the diameter smaller. It sort of wound back in on itself. I also tried using two coffee stirrers/straws side by side. Works the same and I already had quite a few of those on hand, too!
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    I was also thinking that a coffee straw bent in a zig zag might work like a spring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristin View Post
    I was also thinking that a coffee straw bent in a zig zag might work like a spring?
    It is not the action of the spring that matters, but it is a good low mass spacer. The spring does help with wicking though.

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    I decided to try this Mod today and I must say it works really well.
    Much better than just the standard Polyfill.
    I also think its better than the Fluval or Blue Foam as well as better than the PTB.
    It really wicks well and the material at the atty always stays stays wet and so far I havent encountered the "burnt" taste that I always seem to eventually experience with the others (even the PTB).

    I have also tried a couple of variations to this mod.Using the same horizontal spring idea-

    The first one I tried was to ball up (or roll/fold or however you can get it to work) a small piece of PTB. Works well. No dripping so far. Wicks nicely. The downside is that its hard to get the PTB material to stay in place and it makes the draw a bit harder.

    The second one I tried was a little weird. Since it was just Halloween I was decorating with some of that Poly Spider Webbing stuff and thought "Hey! I wonder if I can use that as cart filler" So I tried it. I think it might work better than the Poly Batting. Might be because of the stretching ability of the webbing material, not sure, but it seems to wick a bit better than the others.

    The only downside I can see to this Mod as a whole is that once your cart does run dry its kind of a PITA to refill. Having to pull out the material, fill the cart, put material back and top off. Gets a little messy sometimes.

    But its a good Mod and better than most.
    As someone who has exclusively been dripping for the last 2 weeks (and loving it!), I will be carrying around a couple of carts with this Mod just in case.
    Theyll make a good backup.

    Props to SCOTTYBALLS for coming up with this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrate View Post
    The only downside I can see to this Mod as a whole is that once your cart does run dry its kind of a PITA to refill. Having to pull out the material, fill the cart, put material back and top off. Gets a little messy sometimes.
    I hear ya filling can be messy I made 5 flat tips and 5 round tips so I dont have to mess with if for a while.. I really wish I had a needle but I have no idea how to get one..

    Any diabetics here that could donate a needle? prefer not used
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    basically, all we need is something to hold the filler in place at the top of the cart, right?
    I liked the crossbars idea Scottbee!! That made me think about a grid that would lay on the ledges, like a strainer, then I remembered these, I used to have some and I bet they would work perfectly.
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    For those of you like me who need more of a tutorial, here is a link to a youtube video of this exact mod!!

    Helped me out tremendously!!

    YouTube - Joye 510 cartridge mod auto drip mod "ADM"

    Hope this helps!

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    I like the spring. I do the same exact mod using a pipe screen. Rather then using poly fill I use a small piece of untreated cotton wick (lantern wick). So far this has been working to the point that I barely notice the difference between dripping.

    Thanks for the spring idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCOTTYBALLS View Post
    I hear ya filling can be messy I made 5 flat tips and 5 round tips so I dont have to mess with if for a while.. I really wish I had a needle but I have no idea how to get one..

    Any diabetics here that could donate a needle? prefer not used
    Try amazon. You should also be able to get them from your local drug store.

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    2-4 narrow straws will work better than one straw. More surface area to hold the filler in place. Might even want to cut some burrs into the ends of the straws to keep the filler from sticking to the atty.

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