<![CDATA[e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat - Law and the E-Cigarette]]> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum Discuss the laws that govern the sale of e-cigarettes where you live. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:49:43 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/images/kirsch/misc/rss.jpg <![CDATA[e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat - Law and the E-Cigarette]]> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum Virginia smoking ban dec. 1 !!!!!!!! http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49635-virginia-smoking-ban-dec-1-a.html Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:37:45 GMT *Gov. signs smoking ban in Marlboro country* *Bill applies to restaurants, bars in Virginia; takes effect Dec. 1* This is old news... But... Gov. signs smoking ban in Marlboro country

Bill applies to restaurants, bars in Virginia; takes effect Dec. 1


This is old news... But Dec. 1st is right around the corner !! I wonder how this will effect sales of PV's?



VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - The home state of Marlboro cigarettes and the world's largest cigarette factory is banning most smoking in restaurants and bars.Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine signed a bill Monday that generally restricts smoking to separate rooms that have their own ventilation. It takes effect Dec. 1.
Twenty-three of 50 states, plus Washington, D.C., have banned smoking in most public places, including bars and restaurants. Other states debating smoking bans this year include neighboring tobacco state North Carolina, along with Kansas, South Dakota and Wyoming.

Governor signs smoking ban in Va. - Life- msnbc.com ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette VaporHead4Life http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49635-virginia-smoking-ban-dec-1-a.html A little hope... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49400-little-hope.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:07:51 GMT The FDA approved of a weight loss drug, alli, for OTC availability. Alli Side Effects (http://weight-loss.emedtv.com/alli/alli-side-effects.html)... The FDA approved of a weight loss drug, alli, for OTC availability.
Alli Side Effects lists the side effects of the drugs with their relative percentage of occurrence. From what they tell me, is the drug forces people onto a diet or they crap their pants.

Now, for where the hope comes in, it seems like that is all it takes to get FDA approval. Market e-cigs as a way to get nicotine that makes you not want to smoke cigarettes. If someone ends up soiling themselves, we will have substantial evidence to support our claims.

Don't you just love the FDA? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette umop apisdn http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49400-little-hope.html My Personal Opinion on FDA and Ecigs http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49276-my-personal-opinion-fda-ecigs.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:33:35 GMT I find it interesting that tobacco cigarettes are FDA approved, yet the FDA has created controversy that runs both hot and cold regarding the safety... I find it interesting that tobacco cigarettes are FDA approved, yet the FDA has created controversy that runs both hot and cold regarding the safety of ecigs.

Now,regular cigs contain horrible chemicals used in rat poison, welding substances, etc, etc. The ecig contains minute quantities of LESS harmful chemicals.

And in regards to PG in ecigs, from what I read, PG is in pharm medicines, foods and even condoms. Hence the fact PG is used in fireman training, theaters, clubs, etc where ppl inhale up to 50 gallons!

Ecigs are just a safer alternative. Ban sales to minors, warn the public of possible side effects and be done with it!

Actully, if I were in a position of political power and business, approving ecigs could actually create big markets...especially in the pharm dept Ecig sales have drastically increased in the past year.

With that in mind, who are they kidding that they are concerned with our health? They care about money and control, brought on by addiction and social acceptance. ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette pigelty http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49276-my-personal-opinion-fda-ecigs.html PACT act question http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49244-pact-act-question.html Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:49:55 GMT I've looked around, but can't seem to find a date for a possible senate vote. Is there any way to get advance notice, or will the law sneak up on us like a thief in the night? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette Rahz http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49244-pact-act-question.html To Vape or Not to Vape http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49035-vape-not-vape.html Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:02:23 GMT This thread is for the discussion of the FDA and the e-cigarette, the legality of the e-cigarette, the legal definition of the e-cigarette and it's components and any other topic concerning law and regulation of the e-cigarette.

The thread rules will be pretty loose, so go for it ! ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette JerryRM http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/49035-vape-not-vape.html Mixing and Reselling E-liquid http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/48646-mixing-reselling-e-liquid.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:32:50 GMT what are the laws concerning mixing and then reselling e-liquid? do you need a permit? anyone know? what are the laws concerning mixing and then reselling e-liquid?

do you need a permit?

anyone know? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette kno http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/48646-mixing-reselling-e-liquid.html BlackBerry Users - Easy way to act on the PACT act http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/48472-blackberry-users-easy-way-act-pact-act.html Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:37:11 GMT I found this app on my BB last night, VisableVote. It allows you to see what your reps and sentators are voting on and allows you to vote and write... I found this app on my BB last night, VisableVote. It allows you to see what your reps and sentators are voting on and allows you to vote and write to them directly from the app. The PACT act is on there. I made sure to let WI know what I think :-D check it out ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette angjen0816 http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/48472-blackberry-users-easy-way-act-pact-act.html <![CDATA[Why can't BT embrace the e-cig?]]> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/48125-why-cant-bt-embrace-e-cig.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:22:12 GMT If Big Tobacco actually took their heads out of their asses and marketed their own e-cig, not only would they make a killing, but everyone would also... If Big Tobacco actually took their heads out of their asses and marketed their own e-cig, not only would they make a killing, but everyone would also enjoy a wealth of benefits from it.
-Better PR: PV's are massively healthier than analogs, no marketing a product responsible for so many deaths a year.
-No ban: enough said.
-Better equipment? I'm sure if they wanted, with their large wealth, they could easily fund R&D to create a new product that out classes what we have now for a fraction of the price.

The world is truly backwards, it's beginning to disgust me. ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette umop apisdn http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/48125-why-cant-bt-embrace-e-cig.html No Health Warning on Ecig http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/47148-no-health-warning-ecig.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:11:14 GMT *I am sure someone has already posted this but I coud not find it anywhere. * *This a teleconference regarding Ecigs held by FDA and numerous ... I am sure someone has already posted this but I coud not find it anywhere.

This a teleconference regarding Ecigs held by FDA and numerous health care officals. Heading up the teleconference was Judy Leon (I wonder is she is any kin to Judge Leon) She is FDA Office Of Public Affairs.

Transcript for FDA's Media Briefing on Electronic CigarettesAlso the FDA states that Ecig have no age limit or health warning compartable to NTR or conventional cigarettes.

Do you think that all Ecig and Liquid and Cartridges should have these warning and perhaps a list of the ingredents and listed on the products the age requirement. All of these things are on regular cigarettes.

If this have previously listed please disregard this thread. ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette martha1014 http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/47148-no-health-warning-ecig.html <![CDATA[Why aren't real cigarettes affected by the flavor ban]]> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46773-why-arent-real-cigarettes-affected-flavor-ban.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:24:45 GMT The legislation attacks cigarettes that are candy flavored. As far as I know licorice is a candy flavor and is the main flavor ingredient in Marlboro... The legislation attacks cigarettes that are candy flavored. As far as I know licorice is a candy flavor and is the main flavor ingredient in Marlboro lights according to Phillip Morris's website.


Ingredients by Brand - Philip Morris USA ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette kreiderb http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46773-why-arent-real-cigarettes-affected-flavor-ban.html this might be interesting, in calif.- backyard smoking banns?? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46550-might-interesting-calif-backyard-smoking-banns.html Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:21:00 GMT i had to digg it too, to rant about it. this is very close to where i live, i think i got the wrong handbook on how to live in california... El... i had to digg it too, to rant about it. this is very close to where i live, i think i got the wrong handbook on how to live in california...
El Dorado Hills couple sues neighbor over cigarette smoke - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette boxhead http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46550-might-interesting-calif-backyard-smoking-banns.html Anyone knows about German customs or customs in general? Question http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46204-anyone-knows-about-german-customs-customs-general-question.html Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:19:38 GMT I am living in Germany right now. I got a letter in the mail saying that my order from China arrived. They sent me a form to fill out and return,... I am living in Germany right now. I got a letter in the mail saying that my order from China arrived. They sent me a form to fill out and return, wanting to know what was in the package, how much everything in the package costs, along with a receipt etc.

I contacted the supplier. They said they didn't mark it as a gift and included no paperwork in the package. So, I could say it was a gift, but I don't know if that will come back to bite me.

Or I could pay the taxes on it, maybe The problem is, I don't know exactly what the laws are. This was an expensive order, and so I don't want it to get seized or anything.

Any experience or advice? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette Giantfan http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46204-anyone-knows-about-german-customs-customs-general-question.html Atomizers Seized By Customs? http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46016-atomizers-seized-customs.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:50:10 GMT I ordered 30 atomizers from BestECig. Nothing else, just atties. Tracking the package shows that they were delivered to US customs 11 days ago. ... I ordered 30 atomizers from BestECig. Nothing else, just atties.

Tracking the package shows that they were delivered to US customs 11 days ago.

Should I be paranoid about seizure yet? Is 11 days in Customs normal? It seems a little long to me but I have no idea how long their inspection can take. If they can take up to a month then I'll start worrying in a few weeks.

If they do get seized, will I get any notification, like a letter from Customs or something? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette Scottes http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/46016-atomizers-seized-customs.html Question about banned flavors in cigarettes http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/45577-question-about-banned-flavors-cigarettes.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:11:59 GMT Does anyone know how this idea of no flavors will effect pipe tobacco smokers. They have had flavored tobacco for as long as I can remember.(Funny... Does anyone know how this idea of no flavors will effect pipe tobacco smokers. They have had flavored tobacco for as long as I can remember.(Funny how you don't see kids sporting a Sherlock Holmes pipe) Doesn't this no flavors rule only really extend to things like chocolate, strawberry, watermelon etc... I thought flavors that are generally considered part of a regular tobacco or menthol will still be allowed.

I do believe that ALL cigarettes are flavored in one way or another.As an example I thought things like caramel flavoring was added to many cigarette types.

Surly flavorings can still be added to our juice recipes should the SE vs FDA case work in our favor. We just can not have any thing that would be labeled the same as a confection. As an example, I really enjoy espresso flavored juice. Really it doesn't taste like espresso to me, it tastes a bit more like a rough Tennessee Cured which would still be considered a tobacco flavor.

Am I wrong here? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette ritalin http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/45577-question-about-banned-flavors-cigarettes.html My Letter back from the FDA http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/44785-my-letter-back-fda.html Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:13:44 GMT Several weeks ago I sent an email to the FDA requesting confirmation one way or another on customs holding shipments. I had recently read conflicting... Several weeks ago I sent an email to the FDA requesting confirmation one way or another on customs holding shipments. I had recently read conflicting FDA quotes in regards to the matter. My first email was returned with the same scripted letter that has been posted in one form here or another. So I inquired again.

My second letter to the FDA
Quote:
Thank you for your response,

However I still have a few questions. I should have made myself more clear. I intend to sell the product without nicotine, to my knowledge this is the only "drug" in the liquid. Will the same rules still apply if there is no "drug" in my device sold to the public? Will the same rules classify this no-nicotine e-cigarette as the "drug" delivery system and again bar it from importation?

Thank you,
Their response,
Quote:
To clarify, regardless of whether the cartridges contain nicotine or not, they contain chemicals that are intended to be volatilized and inhaled by the user upon each inhalation through electronic cigarette articles. Based on various claims, statements, and representations of the products that we have reviewed, they suggest that these articles are intended to affect the structure or function of the body and to mitigate, treat, or prevent disease with or without nicotine. Therefore, they would require a new drug application, which we encourage manufacturers to submit.
To address your last question, FDA has detained and refused several importations of various brands of these "electronic" cigarettes, cigars, and pipes, and their components, and the agency continues to evaluate these products on a case-by-case basis.
Kristine Wollscheid
Compliance Officer
Food and Drug Administration
CDER/Office of Compliance
Division of New Drugs & Labeling Compliance
OTC Drugs Team
10903 New Hampshire Ave.
WO51-1333
Silver Spring, MD 20993
There were a few different ideas as to what she meant in her replay. So I inquired again.
Quote:
Again thank you for your quick responce.

Please excuse me but I am still unsure of what you are saying here. I understand that the FDA's stance is that this is a drug/delivery device. Surely you are not saying that a devices "intended" use is determined strictly by the claims of some vendors. I would assume that the you mean to say that the other chemicals involved such as Propylene glycol and the food flavorings are considered drugs? The only other components of the e-cigarette liquid besides nicotine are already FDA approved as far as I am aware, or do you mean the idea that the device being sold as a placebo for a cigarette makes it a drug?

Thank you again,
Ill edit the post if I hear back from her again.
Your thoughts? ]]> Law and the E-Cigarette ritalin http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/law-e-cigarette/44785-my-letter-back-fda.html