Good post Gato, I'd like to see that get around, big time!
Good post Gato, I'd like to see that get around, big time!
Quit Date: 03/2011
Look, read, and listen. Vape safe!
Ha, thanks for all the likes & compliments..
The entire writing & submittal process didn't take long at all, and was pretty easy..
This is just my 1st comment..
I'm going to try to submit one each day (or thereabouts) from yesterday until the deadline.. Looking at least a dozen different coments, if not more, with each comment tracking # emailed to CASAA, per their CTA, which I think is very important & makes their job easier...
Obviously will be following CASAA's guidelines in their latest CTA for at least one of my comment's subject matter.. But I think it's good for people to also step outside those parameters if they want.. Not only will it put these other ideas on public record for all to see, but also give CASAA & other organizations some "ammo" to work with which might help win this thing...
Other examples of comments I'm thinking of doing are: Painting a bleak picture of the black market in the post-FDA reg era; "Connecting the dots" in terms of the FDA/BP/BT trio, as well as those in Congress calling for regs; Submitting studies on the (potential) benefits of nicotine (including Parkinson's & Alzheimer's); Listing Mitch Zeller's ties to certain groups which pose a conflict of interest & calling for his resignation; Picking apart flawed studies that the FDA is using; Using Zeller's own public words against him; Etc., etc...
Really, the sky is the limit with this..
And now is the time.. Multiple comments with various angles on multiple topics.. We really need to get that comment count up...
Speak now or forever hold your peace!
Do it for current vapers, do it for future vapers, do it for those with smokers & vapers in their lives...
EDIT: Be sure to copy/paste/save your comments to your hard drive, for possible future use..
Last edited by Gato del Jugo; 07-25-2014 at 06:07 PM.
I've considered submitting picturers because sometimes they seem to say more than words. These were found around the net and there are plenty more. My point is that "for the children" undermines crediability of the agency. Maybe I should point to a few YouTube videos of teenagers plastering themselves with nic patches until they get sick?
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Last edited by aikanae1; 07-26-2014 at 04:10 AM.
ECigs saves trees <insert picture of 400,000 smokers caskets here>.
Those are some great comments. ALL the posts and threads here make a lot of sense, but to a determined FDA run by anti-nic fanatics and screamers they mean little, unfortunately. We are dealing with anti-nic idealogues who only believe that the only good nic is none at all.
I still can't wrap my head around the FDA ignoring the increased use and legalization of a certain plant used for making rope and the stomping on Ecigs. Real kids are
using that stuff you can legally get in a couple of states and there are well known harmful effects from it. I can only believe it all does come down to the major tobacco companies losing profits and the states and feds losing taxes. The "kids" issue is a side show and just used as a scare tactic.
Ban the FDA, not innovation...
I had some fun today too. Couldn't let this whole thing go without at least one snarky comment:
Psssst....you let your true motivations slip with this statement in the regulations:
"The proposed rule also deems any future
tobacco products that meet the statutory definition of "tobacco product" except accessories of
such product to be subject to FDA's authorities under chapter IX of the FD&C Act. For example,
FDA envisions that there could be tobacco products developed in the future that provide nicotine
delivery (e.g., via dermal or buccal absorption), similar to currently marketed medicinal nicotine
products, but which are not marketed for therapeutic purposes. Such products would be "tobacco
products" and subject to FDA's chapter IX authorities should the deeming rule be finalized."
All future products are automatically deemed? Really??? It's bad enough that nicotine water and nicotine toothpicks will be subject to these burdensome regulations. But to automatically include anything else that may come along in the future is beyond absurd.
Methinks the pharmaceutical industry is pressuring you for these regulations in order to protect their profits against competition from anyone who would dare to create a nicotine lozenge or gum for recreational use, and then dare to price them as such.
Mustn't let anyone else sell 160 pieces of gum for less than $40.
Life may have no meaning, or, even worse, it may have a meaning of which you disapprove.
As a vaper I would like to urge the FDA to ban all flavors from all products for adults. To prevent kids from becoming addicted to coffee, it should taste like water. Adults should not have flavored alcohol and that should be made to taste like water - and there should be no difference between vodka, whisky, rum or scotch. Alcoholism is a serious disease and a frequent cause for life threatening car accidents. All of our insurance rates would go down immediately. The Senate should not be allowed to have a candy desk - yes, there is a candy desk in the senate!!! No wonder they are all wired up and can't focus on getting anything done. What kind of a role model does that provide for our children! Soda's should have no flavoring or no sugar and should taste the same as alcohol, er water. Food coloring isn't healthy either, I guess. I'm not sure what to do here but I bet the FDA does. The effect of no more flavoring would go a long way to preventing diabetes and ending obesity.
I expect this to happen before April of next year since this has been going on for far too long - several centuries? Where was the FDA in the 1800's when all of this started? The FDA should be doing a much better job. They should have predicted this would happen when the FTSPCA act was signed, even if some of these products didn't exist yet - the FDA should have known that someday they would.
Thank you very much for reading.
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Last edited by aikanae1; 08-08-2014 at 10:17 PM.
FDA should just outright ban themselves.... Corruption runs deep in America. Time to rid the rats!