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bear · 05-30-2009, 12:30 AM

Wow, I must say, I was quite surprised when I saw this sub-group. I was just logging on the forums real quick to check what one drop of extra high liquid was equivalent to, having just received my first e-cig. At any rate, my two pennies... There is not a way to make a 2nd moderator for the group? I've seen that in other forums. Or, is the issue the fact that said moderator would have to be a member of the group? Why not ask one who frequents the forums often? If that is not feasible, what about the actual e-cigarette-forum.com moderator(s) of the. If it is only one, then that would be too much to ask, but if there are others, why not? If it's not possible to give a few members the ability to be a moderator, then, I don't know. Maybe an account could be created, where only a few trusted members(servants)had the pw, that could be used to approve requests. For all that I just said, I'm honestly not so concerned. I haven't checked how many people are in this group, yet. But, from what I've seen, people at the forums seem to be very friendly. I'm not sure how often you all logon, and I'm assuming most of us have non-cyber AA lives. One of the few reasons I can think of to make it private is for the long-distance people, or bed-ridden, who can't physically attend an AA meeting. I have been in that situation in a small town in Europe. There is lamp-lighters for that and all the online AA meetings. At first, as I was reading your guys' posts I was leaning towards private, but now that i've rambled on, it's probably fine(maybe better)the way it is.

And about the post where somebody mentioned AA has no monopoly on recovery(I believe the book actually refers to G-d)in regards to people posting about other methods of getting sober, etc. Well, the group ideally wouldn't be called 'friends of Bill W.' in that case. A lot of people are very sensitive about that, as a couple of you already stated your 'secret'. I am fine with it, in the sense of personal tolerance and sensitivity. I have two aunts and two uncles with long-term sobriety in AA. I also have an uncle who has long-term sobriety, outside of AA. He is not a dry-drunk, he is very content with his life. I talked to him about this and, yes, he stated it wouldn't have been possible without G-d(he is also into his religion). When I was younger, I justified not following the suggestions given me by the rehab I was in, by citing my uncle. I firmly believe AA is not the only way(aside from personal experience and observation, just read 'Varieties of Religious Experience' cited by Bill W., for further proof). But it sure as hell has the best success rate--in terms of efficacy, and in terms of not driving someone away. So, having people talk about other ways of getting sober might be detrimental to a newcomer's ability to get sober. Of course, my not getting sober early on wasn't because of my uncle and my using him as justification, I simply was not ready. However, if this group is to function under the title of 'friends of Bill W.' then it might be a good idea to have some guidelines. I don't know, I'd have to ask my sponsor his opinion. Not really.

Although I wouldn't care either way, I just thought I'd throw in some jibberish to put in your pipe and smoke, while slightly introducing myself.

Best,
Tim

kaystoys · 06-02-2009, 11:43 PM

Hello and Thank you for starting this group!I am just about to order my 1st e-cig and have a frew questions/Maybe you can tell me where to ask them?
I am looking at the JOYE 510. Now, does this hook up to my USB? instead of just a plug in battery charger? And what the heck is a pass through? Will I need one?
Sorry to be such a dummie!
Kaystoys
06/01/74

Vince1 · 06-02-2009, 11:53 PM

Hi Kay, welcome to the group. The pass through is to plug into your computer to power your 510 so you don't use up your batteries at home and to give a little better performance by increasing the voltage a little.
The 510 is a great choice, I use mine at work all day.
For info on the 510/yeti/Titan/dura (all the same) go to Joye 510 - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

For the best deal- http://widowsbeadwork.com/Ecig.html $50 shipped.

Please post any future e-cig questions in the new members forum or general discussion. And again, welcome.

kaystoys · 06-03-2009, 12:00 AM

Hi again, got lost asking e-cig questions. I was tickled to see this group! I can ask any stupid questions I have and not feel too dumb! LOL
The above date is my sobriety date 06/01/74. Had a touching and wonderful anniversary yesterday at my home group here in CT. I'm retired, nothing to lose and by now everyone I know, knows where I stand on A.A. I even have 3 grandkids in the rooms. Kids are a different situation....talk about resistance! Anyway an open meeting is OK by me.

For anyone new, you can't beat this A.A. life!

DebiDoes2 · 06-08-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaystoys

Hi again, got lost asking e-cig questions. I was tickled to see this group! I can ask any stupid questions I have and not feel too dumb! LOL
The above date is my sobriety date 06/01/74. Had a touching and wonderful anniversary yesterday at my home group here in CT. I'm retired, nothing to lose and by now everyone I know, knows where I stand on A.A. I even have 3 grandkids in the rooms. Kids are a different situation....talk about resistance! Anyway an open meeting is OK by me.

For anyone new, you can't beat this A.A. life!

Hi All, I'm Debi, alcoholic/addict. Been clean and sober since May 28th, 1993. I'm not too sure why there is a question of annomity in a e-cig forum. Are we going to have 12 step meetings? Or are we going to be a social group with a common bond? Since we all use user names instead of our real names, it shouldn't matter....should it? Forgive me but I am so confused......(normal state I'm afraid, lol)

kaystoys · 06-08-2009, 01:11 PM

You are sooo smart!
Of course that would be the 1st question the group needs to decide! LOL! Right now I am all for a social group. I am just starting on the e-cig route and that is where I will be needing the help.
I suppose we could have a thread that is a plain old meeting, and another for socializing, and another for e-cig stuff. However, like regular meetings, I think it will pretty much depend on who has the time and is willing to be in charge of the threads.
I hope someone will keep me posted so I know "which roon to go into!"

Kay
(06/01/74)

Bulldog44 · 06-12-2009, 07:03 PM

Awesome group! I am an alcoholic and addict, my name is Wes..........I am assuming all of y'all are saying "Hey Wes"

And in true addict fashion I have gone over board on my vaping purchases.

But I am so glad that the e-cig is out there, as well as fellow friends of Bill W. Thanks for starting this group.

kathyst · 06-14-2009, 05:31 AM

Hi. My name's Kathy and I'm an alcoholic. Sober since 5/12/85. But man do I love my espresso and cigs (soon to be e-cigs!).

I was glad to find this sub-group just because it's a special part of my life, the sober part, and I like being with people who are hip to that. I'm not exactly a 12-stepper, though. I didn't do AA when I quit drinking, though I had attended lots of meetings before I quit, wanting to quit. (Just like I'm on the e-cig forum before my starter kit even arrives

I don't have a considered opinion about whether this sub-group should be open or closed. I think open, based on the situation with the gay group as commented on above -- if the moderator isn't available or something. It doesn't seem to me like there are hoards of people wanting to troll the Friends of Bill W. sub-group of this e-cig forum, are there? But others would know this better than I.

Thanks for listening.

kathy

Father Luke · 07-29-2009, 07:32 AM

Father Luke reporting for duty.

My date of Sobriety is November 7th, 1988.

In the last few years I have given up a 3 - 4 pack a day Lucky Strike
non-filters habit, given up sugar, gave up coffee, turned vegetarian,
and I am soon going to be vaping a zero nicotine prodigy.

I sponsor people, and I want to remind anyone who hasn't worked the
steps, or if they are aren't sure that this is the right place for them,
you will probably fit in just fine. The only thing that really matters is
that somewhere along the line you decided to stop drinking.

Glad to be here.

- -
Okay,
Father Luke

SurfVortex · 08-03-2009, 06:13 AM

Hi Y'all! I'm an anonymous alcoholic/addict/codependent, and I am soooo grateful that there's some friends of Bill and Dr. Bob and Lois around here!
My vote is for 'open'. I love recovery.
Thanks again for being here!

06-02-2009, 11:53 PM	#23
Vince1 ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Down South, USA. Posts: 1,059	Hi Kay, welcome to the group. The pass through is to plug into your computer to power your 510 so you don't use up your batteries at home and to give a little better performance by increasing the voltage a little. The 510 is a great choice, I use mine at work all day. For info on the 510/yeti/Titan/dura (all the same) go to Joye 510 - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat For the best deal- http://widowsbeadwork.com/Ecig.html $50 shipped. Please post any future e-cig questions in the new members forum or general discussion. And again, welcome. __________________ That's five, smok'em if ya got 'em Last edited by Vince1; 06-03-2009 at 12:02 AM.

06-03-2009, 12:00 AM	#24
kaystoys Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Milford, CT Posts: 12	Oooops forgot to qualify Hi again, got lost asking e-cig questions. I was tickled to see this group! I can ask any stupid questions I have and not feel too dumb! LOL The above date is my sobriety date 06/01/74. Had a touching and wonderful anniversary yesterday at my home group here in CT. I'm retired, nothing to lose and by now everyone I know, knows where I stand on A.A. I even have 3 grandkids in the rooms. Kids are a different situation....talk about resistance! Anyway an open meeting is OK by me. For anyone new, you can't beat this A.A. life!

06-08-2009, 01:11 PM	#26
kaystoys Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Milford, CT Posts: 12	Hi DebiDoes2 You are sooo smart! Of course that would be the 1st question the group needs to decide! LOL! Right now I am all for a social group. I am just starting on the e-cig route and that is where I will be needing the help. I suppose we could have a thread that is a plain old meeting, and another for socializing, and another for e-cig stuff. However, like regular meetings, I think it will pretty much depend on who has the time and is willing to be in charge of the threads. I hope someone will keep me posted so I know "which roon to go into!" Kay (06/01/74)

06-12-2009, 07:03 PM	#27
Bulldog44 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 270 Tweet this post!	Awesome group! I am an alcoholic and addict, my name is Wes..........I am assuming all of y'all are saying "Hey Wes" And in true addict fashion I have gone over board on my vaping purchases. But I am so glad that the e-cig is out there, as well as fellow friends of Bill W. Thanks for starting this group. __________________

07-29-2009, 07:32 AM	#29
Father Luke Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company Posts: 281	Father Luke reporting for duty. My date of Sobriety is November 7th, 1988. In the last few years I have given up a 3 - 4 pack a day Lucky Strike non-filters habit, given up sugar, gave up coffee, turned vegetarian, and I am soon going to be vaping a zero nicotine prodigy. I sponsor people, and I want to remind anyone who hasn't worked the steps, or if they are aren't sure that this is the right place for them, you will probably fit in just fine. The only thing that really matters is that somewhere along the line you decided to stop drinking. Glad to be here. - - Okay, Father Luke __________________ Device: Prodigy (801) from Puresmoker.com - Juice: Assorted Zero-nic homemade flavors.

05-30-2009, 12:30 AM	#21
bear Full Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 10	Wow, I must say, I was quite surprised when I saw this sub-group. I was just logging on the forums real quick to check what one drop of extra high liquid was equivalent to, having just received my first e-cig. At any rate, my two pennies... There is not a way to make a 2nd moderator for the group? I've seen that in other forums. Or, is the issue the fact that said moderator would have to be a member of the group? Why not ask one who frequents the forums often? If that is not feasible, what about the actual e-cigarette-forum.com moderator(s) of the. If it is only one, then that would be too much to ask, but if there are others, why not? If it's not possible to give a few members the ability to be a moderator, then, I don't know. Maybe an account could be created, where only a few trusted members(servants)had the pw, that could be used to approve requests. For all that I just said, I'm honestly not so concerned. I haven't checked how many people are in this group, yet. But, from what I've seen, people at the forums seem to be very friendly. I'm not sure how often you all logon, and I'm assuming most of us have non-cyber AA lives. One of the few reasons I can think of to make it private is for the long-distance people, or bed-ridden, who can't physically attend an AA meeting. I have been in that situation in a small town in Europe. There is lamp-lighters for that and all the online AA meetings. At first, as I was reading your guys' posts I was leaning towards private, but now that i've rambled on, it's probably fine(maybe better)the way it is. And about the post where somebody mentioned AA has no monopoly on recovery(I believe the book actually refers to G-d)in regards to people posting about other methods of getting sober, etc. Well, the group ideally wouldn't be called 'friends of Bill W.' in that case. A lot of people are very sensitive about that, as a couple of you already stated your 'secret'. I am fine with it, in the sense of personal tolerance and sensitivity. I have two aunts and two uncles with long-term sobriety in AA. I also have an uncle who has long-term sobriety, outside of AA. He is not a dry-drunk, he is very content with his life. I talked to him about this and, yes, he stated it wouldn't have been possible without G-d(he is also into his religion). When I was younger, I justified not following the suggestions given me by the rehab I was in, by citing my uncle. I firmly believe AA is not the only way(aside from personal experience and observation, just read 'Varieties of Religious Experience' cited by Bill W., for further proof). But it sure as hell has the best success rate--in terms of efficacy, and in terms of not driving someone away. So, having people talk about other ways of getting sober might be detrimental to a newcomer's ability to get sober. Of course, my not getting sober early on wasn't because of my uncle and my using him as justification, I simply was not ready. However, if this group is to function under the title of 'friends of Bill W.' then it might be a good idea to have some guidelines. I don't know, I'd have to ask my sponsor his opinion. Not really. Although I wouldn't care either way, I just thought I'd throw in some jibberish to put in your pipe and smoke, while slightly introducing myself. Best, Tim

06-02-2009, 11:43 PM	#22
kaystoys Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Milford, CT Posts: 12	Hello and Thank you for starting this group!I am just about to order my 1st e-cig and have a frew questions/Maybe you can tell me where to ask them? I am looking at the JOYE 510. Now, does this hook up to my USB? instead of just a plug in battery charger? And what the heck is a pass through? Will I need one? Sorry to be such a dummie! Kaystoys 06/01/74

06-14-2009, 05:31 AM	#28
kathyst Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 115	Hi. My name's Kathy and I'm an alcoholic. Sober since 5/12/85. But man do I love my espresso and cigs (soon to be e-cigs!). I was glad to find this sub-group just because it's a special part of my life, the sober part, and I like being with people who are hip to that. I'm not exactly a 12-stepper, though. I didn't do AA when I quit drinking, though I had attended lots of meetings before I quit, wanting to quit. (Just like I'm on the e-cig forum before my starter kit even arrives I don't have a considered opinion about whether this sub-group should be open or closed. I think open, based on the situation with the gay group as commented on above -- if the moderator isn't available or something. It doesn't seem to me like there are hoards of people wanting to troll the Friends of Bill W. sub-group of this e-cig forum, are there? But others would know this better than I. Thanks for listening. kathy

08-03-2009, 06:13 AM	#30
SurfVortex Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: North of The City,CA Posts: 19	Hi Y'all! I'm an anonymous alcoholic/addict/codependent, and I am soooo grateful that there's some friends of Bill and Dr. Bob and Lois around here! My vote is for 'open'. I love recovery. Thanks again for being here!

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