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    I'm not happy any longer with what I'm seeing when I look at the plastic bottles that vendors are using to send us our juice in. When I look into an empty 15ml-30ml plastic bottle the inside looks like it has been melted. This isn't with just one vendor or one juice but with pretty much all of them, accept the ones who are using glass or the harder PTE plastic bottles The used bottle when I look at it just isnt the same as a new bottle, it looks like it is lightly melting on the inside. This means the plastic is leaching into the juice. I think we need to take a closer look at this and switch the bottles where using ASAP and either go to Glass or the harder PTE Bottles they sell, these softer LDPE & HDPE bottles which I think is what there using are just not cutting it any longer. I've been transferring everything I get to glass bottles right away especially all of my nic and pretty much anything I can, but when it comes to buying juice and seeing the inside of the bottle and it leached into my juice this isn't making me to happy and I'm not gonna keep quite about this any longer. Juice suppliers should step up and start using glass to send us our juice in, there making enough profit to do so. If I cant buy this way or in a safer bottle that doesn't leach I'm simply gonna stop buying from that supplier any longer. I think many of the vapors out there should look at there plastic bottles and think about this and what it could do long term vaping juice that has plastic leached into it.
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    Matt, I've got a number of bottles that I re-use and what I do see in some of mine is some etching of the bottle from the juice. Some flavorings as well as koolada, citric will do this. Have you been able to cut open one of these and see a noticiable melting, thinning or gumminess of the walls of the bottle compared to a new one?

    I also recently saw a post where juice or possible flavoring had melted some end caps of a tank, we also know that some of these juices/flavors are some of the same culprits when it comes to tank cracking, so I see where this may be a more more likely reason.

    Just throwing it out there. I don't have all the answers and maybe on the straight nic this may be something to consider, but I don't see a need for panic just yet.
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    I buy all my juice from Virgin Vapor. They only use glass bottles and their juice is organic!
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    Glass bottles may add to the cost, but so what?

    Glass should be the standard.

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    Vchick,,, I see multiple issues with this, and I do see reason to panic, you don't know the long term effect that vaping this plastic can lead to. no matter what is doing this Cinnamon, citric acids, other additives, the plastic is leaching into the juice, I wouldn't keep any of my juice in these plastic bottles if you paid me to do so, Every thing I have goes into glass and has for some time now. These vendors can well afford to use glass bottles for us, and if there not it's simple I'm not giving them my business, and there are many of vendors that know about this and there using Glass bottles and it's a first class act all the way.

    I realize its an individual thing, and some may not care what there juice comes in or what happens to it in the plastic bottle but I really do care about mine and I'm putting my opinion of this out in the open now so others can make an informed and education choice as well about the plastic bottles and what comes along with them in there juice. The juices also seem to hold and keep there flavor better in the glass and taste better to me then in plastic as well besides the safety factors..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmightyGod View Post
    Glass bottles may add to the cost, but so what?

    Glass should be the standard.
    +++1000000 on that AG, if people want to chose to put there juice in a plastic bottle after they get it then that should be up to them, but vendors should really smarten up and use glass, I agree fully it should be a standard, and is with some of the more 1st class acts out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwa102464 View Post
    Vchick,,, I see multiple issues with this, and I do see reason to panic, you don't know the long term effect that vaping this plastic can lead to. no matter what is doing this Cinnamon, citric acids, other additives, the plastic is leaching into the juice, I wouldn't keep any of my juice in these plastic bottles if you paid me to do so, Every thing I have goes into glass and has for some time now. These vendors can well afford to use glass bottles for us, and if there not it's simple I'm not giving them my business, and there are many of vendors that know about this and there using Glass bottles and it's a first class act all the way.

    I realize its an individual thing, and some may not care what there juice comes in or what happens to it in the plastic bottle but I really do care about mine and I'm putting my opinion of this out in the open now so others can make an informed and education choice as well about the plastic bottles and what comes along with them in there juice. The juices also seem to hold and keep there flavor better in the glass and taste better to me then in plastic as well besides the safety factors..
    I understand your concern, but again what proof do you have that they are leaching into the juice? Having you cut open one of these bottles and compared it to a new unused bottle?

    What are you using in your reos?
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    Yes, I have cut them open, but in reality you dont even have to just look at the soft plastic bottle after using it for a while, you can see it very easily,,it looks all roughed up on the inside and scratched, but this is a chemical reaction not a scratch, if you cut it open and even wash it, it still has the same melted look inside Vchick compared to a new one. In my Reo's I have the harder PTE bottles these seem much better and dont show any signs of the melting, though they may still be I'm not sure but doesnt seem so, but a bit tougher to squank. Also using the harder PTE 6ml- 10ml bottles on my vapemate hooked up to my Darwins.

    Glass should be a Standard with juice sales, just my personal opinion, I think many others would like to see this as well.
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    Halo and virgin vapor use glass and thats all i ever order from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreezy562 View Post
    Halo and virgin vapor use glass and thats all i ever order from.
    Like I said dreezy562, many of the 1st class operations use glass, I will only buy from vendors that use the glass as well, there are some good ones out there too, I mostly DIY everything these days, All my NIC is also stored in either the Brown or Cobalt Blue glass bottle and right in the freezer it goes, that's a different story and thread though.
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