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    Hello all,

    Where I'm coming from. Smoked analogs for about 20 years, more or less, often less. When I could afford them, I'd get a pack of European/UK/Premium sticks. Sobranie, Galoises (original, not filters), even original Camels and Lucky Strikes. I also smoked a pipe and just went back to it. Heavy English and Balkans mostly, but with the occasional oddball aromatic. Yeah, I like burning dirty socks.

    So that said, when I looked at vapeing, the whole idea of sucking on a candy all day was not my thing. Then the 'boss', my wife, decided to quit smoking. She's still, I think, using Blu, blech. Not interested. But, I'd seen kids (college age) in my lab vapeing. Huh, well, not all of them can be candy freaks. So I did a little looking around.

    And found all KINDS of information. Yeesh. Finally landed on Virgin Vapor's site. FLOWERS!!!! Ooooh, roses, violets, jasmine, where's the lavender ... ? (Annette is working on it.) So I ordered some with what I could figure out might be something to vape them in, maybe. But it was taking forever. Like HOURS!!! So well, students vapeing, maybe there's a B&M around here?

    One right up the street! Ended up with a basic eGo rig and a bottle of EC Blends Fire and Ice. Never looked back. Still light up a bowl occasionally, but now I can really taste and smell it.

    I like Latakia tobaccos and complex, rip your face off (in a nice way) flavors and twisted mint/spice weirdness and pure florals with all their peppery base goodness. There are probably not going to be a lot of fruits and sweets here. So as I hunt down the odd, unusual and downright weird of the vapeing world, I figured I'd post my discoveries off the beaten path.

    Unless otherwise specified, I'm using a vv battery with a Kanger mini-Protank of some kind. Usually 6mg, sometimes 12, but as I'm a total newb, I really can't tell the difference except I don't get high when I chain vape the 6. That's why I'm leaving that stuff out unless there's a surprise. For me a throat hit is inhaling off a pipe, cigar or Galoises. Probably why I don't notice when it happens unless it's extreme. Same with price; if it's either way high or low, I'll mention it, but y'all know what the standard prices are.

    To start out with, what I have so far.
    EC Blends Fire and Ice. At the B&M I tried a number of ECBs more common vapes. This was the one that was the most acceptable. Cinnamon and mint isn't a favorite flavor of mine, but it certainly works. Got it at 12mg and if you inhale it straight to your lungs, well, lets just say if I've ever smoked a Galoises, it actually gets in spitting distance for hit. Wow! Ok, no, no stinky, no, don't want stinky. A great first vape and one I highly recommend if you're trying to avoid analogs. Straight up cinnamon and menthol, a little like the old Camel fire and ice cigarettes.

    EC Blends Black and Gold. Honorable mention. They reminded me a very tiny bit of a Sobranie Black and Gold, albeit far simpler and sweeter. Still, it might be something to try if you like those.
    (Note: EC Blends are amazingly good for the price. See margarita below for contrast. None of the ones I tried at the B&M were bad.)

    Next B&M I found wasn't as good, but they were nice enough so I found something to add to the stash.
    Fusion Vapor Krankberry Definitely berry candy in there with a bit of tang sometimes. Not over sweet and with occasional base earthy/herb notes under the berry. Just as a good berry should have and too many berry candy flavors miss. It's good, and not a tank buster, so it gets a place in the rotation.

    Final B&M (30 miles away) had Namber Juice. Now that's what I'm talking about!
    Blueberry Violence - Blueberries and cinnamon. Real blueberries, not the candy type. Tart, a little musky, a little tannic which goes perfectly with the cinnamon, bringing out the woodsy, smokey taste of the bark. Even a little heat from the cinnamon, because there's very little sweet to this one. Almost an ADV. The only juice I've ever refilled a tank with.

    Tom's Vanilla Peppermint - Oh, cool, vanilla and peppermint that's NOT candy. Or at least not modern candy. Imagine having stored a bunch of old fashioned candy canes in a jar with a few vanilla beans. The pepper of the mint and the chewy floral of a good vanilla bean go beautifully in this blend. This isn't $5 a gallon peppermint ice cream here. This is a granita with finely crushed peppermint and the yummy, creamy seeds of perfectly cured vanilla beans. Hold the dairy, thank goodness.

    Rad and Plenty - Me and my black licorice. Love me some black licorice. And this is the old red and white candy without the calories. And like that old candy, it's not over sweet. Just a hit of sugar, like the candy coating, to keep it from biting too hard. Still bites though, nicely, like when your sweetie decides you've spend enough time on ECF and it's time for bed.

    The Slenderman - Uh, oh, um, can tell why the description on this one is so weird. Probably the best way I could describe it is starfruit flavored. It has that same "I can't decide if I'm citrus, tropical or a berry" attitude. Very nice and light. Great summer vape, sitting on the porch, trying not to melt because you don't have AC. There might have been some mint in the same county as the juice, but I'm guessing there's actually a little grapefruit somewhere in this one's ancestry. It will give a little mint taste if used in very small quantities.

    Then I got my first vapemail. It had some CE4 clearos I got for dirt cheap and since it was cheap, I thought I'd try their margarita.
    MyFreedomSmokes.com - Margarita OMG. I've had some awful margaritas in my life, including bottom of the line tequila with lime flavored mixer and it wasn't this bad. It bites (at 18mg), is sweet and just nasty. Nevermind. There's a little lime to it, somewhere, I think from the standard flavor vats with a bit of zest bite/bitter occasionally, but ... gah. If there was any agave taste, I sure missed it. At least with a bad margarita beverage, the lousy tequila will numb your tongue before you get the second sip. There was no rescue from this one.

    So now I'm waiting on my Djarum WTA from Aroma Ejuice. Never did let myself smoke cloves, so I wanted the best I could possibly find. I'll let you know how it is ...
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    Ok, Aroma Ejuice Djarum WTA

    I like to break my own rules, so here goes. This stuff is bloody expensive. $1.20/ml, 10ml bottles only. That said, I really wanted to try a WTA. I'll probably also give their regular Djarum a try in comparison. It's like half the price.

    But yeah, I like it. I like it lots. Growing up I knew lots of people who smoked clove cigarettes. Sure I thought about it, but I also knew clove oil was a major irritant. Putting it in my lungs seemed like a seriously Bad Idea (tm) so I never did more than occasionally steal a drag off someone else's.

    But this is cloves without guilt. I can't say if it's because of the WTA, but I take a vape and put my PV down. Can't tell it from a lighter analog in any significant way and I've had analogs with less of a hit. The whole mouth and chest feel is incredibly similar. At least close enough with all the various random brands and styles I've ended up smoking over the years.

    However, again I don't know if it's the WTA but it also gets me high. This is some serious stuff here. Well, I'm also toking it, not vaping it. Yeah, like I was Smoking. But it's sooooo good!

    Yeah, it's really, really good. Now having only had a few puffs on a clove cigarette in my life, the last many years ago, I can't tell if it really is like a Djarum black. However, as a thing in and of itself, it's wonderful. It's all clove and smoke and cinnamon and cardamon and that funky hippy 60's flower child goodness followed by a really nice mellow buzz.

    Just wish I had one of those low ohm massive power dildo mod things. I have my poor VV maxed at 11 watts and I bet it would rock much higher. This was one where the higher I pushed it, the tastier it got.

    So, not for the faint of heart or wallet (or lacking in equipment) but a great vape. Now I'm going to go wander off and see if I have any tie-dye in my closet ... peace man

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    And now for something completely different, as I promised. I did something odd with the equipment this time as well. Instead of using one of my usual tanks and mods, I used one of the very cheap, obviously Chinese, almost disposable eGo knockoffs. You know, the kind that comes in hard plastic with a cardboard back? It does the job. If I find anything different, I'll post it, but I don't know that I will.

    The reason for this is I ordered this whole package from Virgin Vapor before I knew much of anything at all about vaping. But the reason I'm passing it on, is with this little guy, you get a trial bottle of juice and it would probably be great for a present. "Hey, try this. I thought you'd like this flavor and it'll get you started." For $15, with a little bottle of VV's 'awesome sauce', what's to loose? Gas station disposables are more expensive if you figure in how long even a little bottle of real juice will last. It even comes with a charger and who can't use a spare one of those?

    So, here goes.
    Virgin Vapor - In Vino Veritas
    It's not at all what I expected. This is what cognac dreams of being in some ideal alternate universe. What was that you said? You heard me, this is the distilled essence of what it is to be a dry white wine. It's the spirit and the intent of wine. Its the musky, floral, complexity of the Platonic ideal of white wine without the more plebeian shackles to which real wine is tethered to the earth.

    My goodness this stuff is amazing. I can vape this for hours just trying to figure it out.

    It's not sweet, it's not even really fruity, except in the sense that all fruit has this mystical joie de vivre waiting inside it to be brought out by the art of fermentation and/or distillation.

    I keep trying to bite the clouds to get more of it. To figure it out and to wallow in it, just like an amazing wine or more, an amazing brandy/cognac.

    THIS is what vaping is all about, I think. To take something and instead of just sticking that flavor in a vapor, instead to transform it into a vapor that reflects the art of the original flavor. Yum!!!
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    I'm enjoying reading your reviews so far. You have quite a way with words! I hope to hear more!

    (BTW, loved your description of In Vino Veritas. You'd be fun to go wine tasting with!)
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    First off, thank you Lisa. I like wine tasting. We have wine walks (crawls?) here where I live and I've sure been tempted sometimes. Maybe if I ever have any real money again. (However, there's this whiskey bar downtown I've been avoiding since I moved here. Much prefer whiskey.)

    Now, on to the next Virgin Vapors flavor. I wasn't so very sure about this after ordering it. Some reviewers were a little meh and I've had really bad luck with tobacco flavors, but ...

    Virgin Vapor - Dark Side of the Moon. This isn't your drug store's tobacco vape. And just like good tobacco, it's not a simple flavor. Definitely chocolate, but more of a dusky, smokey chocolate, which is really where the tobacco comes through. As a hint rather than a smack upside the hayud. And while this isn't a subtle blend, it still very much has what I'm learning to recognize as a master's touch. It has that complexity of flavor although it's not a top end unsweetened chocolate. But then I don't think it was meant to be. It's more approachable than that, like an old friend with benefits. And like that old friend, it's no size 4, thank goodness.

    Every once in a while I think it's a little sweet, then the tobacco saves it. Yup, definitely a nice fun size 10 or 12.

    It's also a total delight with the Djarum clone from Aroma with the album Dark Side of the Moon playing in the background.

    Technicals: Do NOT turn the power up on this one. As low as your mod will go. I had it on 3.0 V with a 1.8 ohm CE4 and it got a little fried (this is a really cheap passthrough) until I moved it to my v3 at 6 W. Light and easy does it. Also, this stuff is incredibly thick, murky and dark. I'm thinking I'm not going to be putting it in any of my regular toppers until I get it its own head. (I'm doing my testing in cheapo CE4's so I don't have to worry about one flavor running into the next. Works and is probably closer to how most people will actually vape stuff, rather than dripping.) A bottom coil would be much better than the CE4 as well. But any tweaking is worth it.

    Yeah, Dark Side of the Moon, Djarum Blacks, a little Floyd ... total trip. Need some Heavy Metal comics or Odd Bodkins to make it complete though. And a magic cookie wouldn't be amiss ...
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    "Now put down the PV and come review this thing."

    "Do I have to?!"

    Virgin Vapor - Blue Violet

    Before I start, I have to admit I'm a serious violet candy junkie. The little white ones that come in a tin from the UK, Violet Crumble, you name it.

    This totally blows them all away. It is a one trick pony, but boy is that pony nice. (Ye gads, I just ran out of battery on my v3! Love passthrough.) It's good to have the lung capacity of a whale. The only vape, smoke or other that I can't help but inhale all the way down. Even after 20+ years of analogs, I still go off the scale on lung capacity tests if I have no asthma going on.

    And this is totally worth every last cc. Just to be able to slooooooowly draw it in, and in, and keep going, and oh, yes, every last note. The sweet floral fragrance on top, the slightly tart/herbal of the petal, the light traces of fresh almost mint that is violet and at last the peppery bite only flowers have. Only if you really, really draw it long and hard do you get the grape, berry center, but violets are like that. They're elusive, shy flowers in the wild only found by the most persistent.

    There's absolutely no soap, perfume, or alcohol crud in this at its sweet spot. Even if it's not quite tuned in, the worst is a little soapy that's unavoidable with florals, but it doesn't last. I'm running at 9.5 W with a 1.5 ohm coil in a pt2 on a v3, fyi. It took a while to get there, but it was worth every vape. I'd say a VV or VW mod is a must on this one. It's very finicky.

    As a note: at least in cooking, something like this is the hardest to pull off at the top level. It's relatively easy to make a killer chili. There are so many ingredients as long as you're close, good enough. However, to make a perfect roasted chicken, that's hard. This is the same kind of thing. It's relatively easy to make a vape with lots of flavors, but to get a single flavor down just right, particularly one that's inherently complex like violet has to be a bear. Great going Annette!

    Now, if you don't like florals, this isn't going to float your boat. If you get it and discover it's not your style, give it to me.
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    Sure would appreciate it if you try Aroma's clove without the WTA. A PM would be welcome in case I don't see the thread again.
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    Ordered and on the way, Normal. LOVE the sig line. That's me.

    Thanks for reading!
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    Ok, today's flavor. Well, the first of today's flavors. I decided to try some more 'normal' flavors as well as my usual oddballs. Just because I'm inconsistent that way. So now for something completely normal.

    Virgin Vapor - Orange Creamsicle
    I was going a little crazy with samples from VV and had read Spinfuel's review, so I decided it was worth a shot. I like orange creamsicles a lot. Especially in the summer when it's hot and I'm in the mood for something sweet. A rare occurrence, but it does happen. That said, yup, this is a creamsicle. It's very much a creamsicle. It's a very good creamsicle. Uh, get the point?

    It's most definitely not too sweet, not too tart and has a lovely true vanilla and cream finish. With just that little touch of sweet that the classic has instead of the sharper bite of the more updated orange and cream combinations. Now this isn't a 50 cent piece of orange colored sugar water with that nasty rubbery ice cream substitute, no. It's the real thing.

    Without the drips, sticky accidents, or chewing on the stick. Ok, I almost miss chewing on the stick and there's almost a hint, somewhere in there, of stick. Might just be because the flavor is so true to the original my mind is creating the idea of a stick. Never was good with the stick and it'd probably be worse now that I have a mustache.

    Which I suppose brings me to the point. This is a creamsicle for adults, where you can have your childhood treat without calories and without looking like, well, an eight year old, except they're usually better at these things than adults, having had more recent practice. It's a stealth orange creamsicle!

    Whoda thunk it?
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    Love your reviews! Keep it up!

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