Forward Thinking Major Cigarette Manufacturers

[memnoc]

Is there anything on the horizon from the major cigarette manufacturers(ie Marlboro) getting in on the action? It may be a while before Smoking real cigarettes becomes a note in the history books but we are obviously on our way. Look at how many different ways there are to get nicotine to help you quit. Ofcourse though, some people dont want to quit! They just want a healthier alternative. Most of us wouldnt even consider quiting if it wasnt bad for you! People may continue smoking e-cigs for 100s of years, but real smokes will be gone long before e-cigs. If any major cig producer had any sense, they would already be looking for a way to create their own niche in the market so they may retain their sales revinue.

Yours truly, The anoying neighborhood smoker!(I am still in transition to full blown e-smoking)

[★CaSHMeRe★]

Originally Posted by memnoc

...If any major cig producer had any sense, they would already be looking for a way to create their own niche in the market so they may retain their sales revinue...

interesting ...

I would tend to think the same thing, however, all we know, is they may be leading the fight AGAINST alternatives like e-cigarettes. Cigarette companies have lots of money and I'm sure they have done their research in alternatives, however, would they admit this ... probably not.

If anyone has the money to put together a great e-cig, it would be our current cig manufacturers, like RJ Reynolds, Phillip Morris, etc... Sadly, they will probably spend that money fighting a healthy alternative.

Its almost like asking an oil company to come up with alternative fuels/power sources ....

[memnoc]

But, some oil companies ARE trying to find alternatives. It is however a different dynamic considering we dont "need" cigarettes the same way we need energy. My father was friends with someone who worked for Phillip Morris in the New development dept. He was given lots of Cigs to try out from smokeless and/or ashless to chocolate flavored and scented. They spend lots of money trying to find creative new ways to entice new smokers and latch on to old ones. I was just hoping someine on this forum may have heard rumors about an e-cig in development from a major cig producer. Which would make e-cigs much more accessible for current e-smokers and help switch more people from the bad smoking, all the while keeping the cig companies from going out of business.

[TropicalBob]

Look at the Alternatives threads and you'll see notes about the Eclipse and Heatbar. These are Big Tobacco's experiments into this kind of venture. The Heatbar is a PM product now being tested Down Under. Eclipse used a heated charcoal lump in its tip to vaporize tobacco for a smoker. All of the alternatives use tobacco -- and that's the big difference. Big Tobacco wants devices that use tobacco.

So ... while we're not privy to private internal affairs ... we see that every major American tobacco company has jumped to snus as the alternative for smokers wanting to quit cigarettes. We now have Camel, Marlboro, and Lucky Strike snus, along with new ones like 1847 from Philip Morris, Tourney and Grand Prix from Liggitt/Vector, and two I can't remember from P. Lorillard. These all use tobacco in tiny teabag-like pouches to deliver nicotine through the mouth. That's what Big Tobacco wants and can profit on.

E-smoking is not their future. It's their future enemy.

[dnakr]

by TropicalBob

E-smoking is not their future. It's their future enemy.

And just think, it was us, the smokers, who made them rich enough to fight our e-smoking...

[memnoc]

Maybe we should start an E-cig brand that would make us rich! We'll call it FU brand e-cigs. Free Urself from big cig companies. Live longer and healthier.

[★CaSHMeRe★]

Originally Posted by memnoc

But, some oil companies ARE trying to find alternatives...

Oil companies would be shooting themselves in the foot. You really think they are willing to find an alternative fuel/power and go bankrupt? Not really bud. Just earlier this week the NY times had an article on this ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/busin ... ref=slogin

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

All of the alternatives use tobacco -- and that's the big difference. Big Tobacco wants devices that use tobacco.

-smoking is not their future. It's their future enemy

EXACTLY !!! I even used to smoke "Eclipse" cig's once in a while. Lighting it was interesting (4-5 big inhales before you actually got smoke) but it accomplished what it needed to. The issue her is the premium price and the scarcity of trying to find it. Only found a couple places in Los Angeles selling it, and when they did, they had maybe 1 or 2 cartons.

[memnoc]

Read this article, Bud. http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...native-energy/

[★CaSHMeRe★]

Originally Posted by memnoc

Read this article, Bud. http://www.alternative-energy-news.i...native-energy/

... sigh ...

300 mil = tax write off

Big Oil companies don't want to be labeled as such. Its like seeing commercials from Phillip Morris on how to quit smoking and if you would like to find out more information on how to, log-on to their website.

Phillip Morris SURVIVES on the thousands of people (kids and adults) that start smoking each day. They have their Quit Assist program almost as a courtesy so they don't seem like the bad guy.

Big Oil will search for alternative "Fuel" sources (ie: Fossil Fuels, hydrogen, etc...) however, anything involving batteries/or electric power will bankrupt their company. US Based Fuel companies will be able to survive if NO (read: zero) outsourcing takes place. However, if electric power is the next big thing, expect China to be the next Dubai.

[memnoc]

Lets just get back to the point. E-cig use should take over traditional cig use solely because of the health benefits. If that is the case, why wont Big Tobacco try to create their own e-cig? If they lose real smokers and gain e-smokers its a win for both sides. How hard is that tio understand?