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Old 07-06-2008, 01:23 AM   #1
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Hi All

been reading and have ordered the Kissbox Classic - should be here this coming week.

A Question: Do current users actually feel health benefits such as people who have quit smoking

a) not feeling breathlessness
b) better taste
c) sleeping
d) more energy

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You'll get a lot of rah-rah answers, but in all honesty my answer to each of your questions is no.

Insomnia is far worse, in fact. I have more nicotine in my blood stream now than when I was smoking 30 cigarettes a day. But that's just me and my routine. I use snus and other nicotine sources. I've always been energetic. Never had excessive breathlessness. And snus clobbers any notion of improved taste, so I can't judge that one. I have no taste, except in music.

From a health standpoint, this isn't kicking nicotine -- and nicotine is not kind to your body. Plus, the propylene glycol adversely affects some users with sore throat, muscle cramps, coughing up gook, hiccups, upset stomach, etc. I can definitely tell my lungs don't like it. Neither does my throat. Until you're off nicotine, you won't enjoy all the purported benefits of quitting cigarettes. But at least you aren't sucking in 200 known carcinogens with puffs from an e-cig.

This is the biggie for me: My smoker's cough disappeared in a week and hasn't returned.

Still, ponder this: There are no long-term studies on the safety of inhaling propylene glycol, and its manufacturer suggests NOT inhaling it. Do we really know the health consequences of what we're doing in place of tobacco smoking? No, we do not. We're hoping.

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a) I breathe better.
b) Food tastes different. Some better...some I find that I don't care for like I used to.
c) I seem to sleep better
d) Not feeling the more energy just yet. Lately, I've been feeling exhausted. But I have been using e-cigs exclusively now since April 28th. I feel like I did when I quit smoking a few years ago using the patch. It took me a few months to start feeling more energetic. A lot of that could be psychological. Doc told me (when I quit with the patch) that I was probably 'mourning' the loss of the cigarettes. It made sense...so I started a new exercise regimen the next day...pushed myself to get off my ass...and started feeling much better (and the mourning started fading). Well, I'm feeling that 'mourning' again...even though I have the e-cigs, there are times I would like to just light up for "old time's sake" but I have been resisting that urge. I'm going to begin a new exercise regimen again on Monday. Already bought a bunch of stretching and yoga DVDs and eager to start them.
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Old 07-06-2008, 01:38 AM   #4
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I feel better.
Granted I don't feel GREAT like some people have posted... But there is a very noticable difference, even after just 3 weeks.

I've always had sleeping problems, and nothing has changed with that.

My sense of smell and taste have gotten quite a bit better. (Something that's kinda funny is if I try to take a hit from my friend's cigarette, it makes my tongue numb!)

Something that's a little hard to explain... I used to have a really bad smell/taste come from my breath when I would exhale sometimes. Not bad mouth breath... but internal. I would smell it a few times a day. I'm sure it was whatever was sitting in my lungs. I don't get that any more.

I used to wake up and be extremely short of breath. I felt like I just couldn't get enough oxygen. That stopped happening after a week. I would also wake up shaking really bad with small anxiety attacks and that hasn't happened either.

I'm always lacking in energy. This is due to medication I take... and that hasn't changed. Maybe I have a tiny bit more energy in the afternoon...

I can take deeper breaths now.

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Old 07-06-2008, 01:52 AM   #5
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wow - great responses - quick as well

propylene glycol - isnt this the stuff they use in nightclubs for smoke machines. If so this stuff must be non toxic or else it would be banned.

I personally agree with the sleeping element - I dont think Esmoking will help as we may be taking in more nicotine.

do you guys get the same kick out of Ecigs - like after a meal or on the Toilet () as you would with normal cigs

I have started to play football but 20 years of smoking has really taken it out of me - I am hoping this will help or is this too much too ask for?
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I don't get the same kick when I use it after a meal, but I do get a kick. And that's good. But I'm still experimenting with flavors and level of nicotine. There are some I like more than others. There are some that "do it for me" and others that don't.

The "mint" flavor I got with my kissbox is awesome in my opinion. But I got it in medium. It was as close to a real menthol cigarette that I've been since I've been using e-cigs. I want to try the "high" level. It may be the one for me, ya know?
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:06 AM   #7
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still trying to work this forum thingy out - tried to edit the post to wish you the best with your exercise routine - go for it

always try to focus on how you will feel just after youve completed your exercise routine - busted but you will feel great.

ive ordered "high" HD cartridges from Janty - I really want it to work and I'm the gunea pig at the office at the mo.

If I can convert over to ecigs then there are about 8 people willing to also start
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do you guys get the same kick out of Ecigs - like after a meal or on the Toilet () as you would with normal cigs

I have started to play football but 20 years of smoking has really taken it out of me - I am hoping this will help or is this too much too ask for?
No I do not get the kick. It's kinda weird. I'm like, hey, I want a cigarette. Well normally I would light up a cig, and get a kick of nicotine, am fulfilled, and feel really good. Done with my cigarette and good for an hour or so.

The way it works with e-cigs (for me) is hey, I want a cigarette. I puff on my e-cig. After puffing for 5-10 minutes, I just lose the want of nicotine. I still fell pretty good, but the nicotine hit comes in very gradually, sometimes a little white after I'm done puffing. And it's not a strong one. I don't get the kick.

When I do want that hit I put in a Skoal apple pouch (man those things are good), oliver twist tobacco bit, or smoke a watermelon Philly Blunt. I do this 2-3 times a day, sometimes more. I would highly recommend people using other nicotine with their e-cig. This is actually Tropical Bob's advice which I followed and I'm damn glad I did. BTW thanks Bob your posts have helped me sooo much with this stuff

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Old 07-06-2008, 02:16 AM   #9
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lol

from wikipedia

Propylene glycol is used: .....

As a medical and sexual lubricant (A.K.A. "personal lubricant")

now were smoking!!!
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I do really like the HD cartridges myself. They last me longer. And I'm waiting for Janty USA to finally open so I can order more "mint" cartridges!!! I'm excited!

I'm looking forward to the new exercise routine. I used to practice yoga and pilates in the past, but haven't for quite a while since just a few months before my sister died. I was very diligent with it. It was an every morning thing for me and helped me feel better through the workday. I had also been a non-smoker for about three years when I was practicing. But my sister's condition had taken a different turn and I stopped exercising to take care of her. After she died, I picked up the cigarettes again. 2005 had been the most difficult year of my life. I'm still not through it...don't think I'll ever be through it...but I'm learning to live with it...which is one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life.

I gotta thank dnakr. If I hadn't seen her e-cig, I probably still wouldn't have heard of it or even tried it for that matter. Using these has helped me feel a little better physically and has actually helped me WANT to get back into an exercise routine again.
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